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tommy1403

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Posted: July 19, 2002 at 12:37 PM / IP Logged

I just got off the phone with alpine tech support. he told me there are no internal relays. I'll fax it over, thanks.

tommy1403

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Posted: July 19, 2002 at 1:16 PM / IP Logged

I included the diagrams i followed, as well as some others that I found. the setup on the12volt should work, but i get no power to the pump. what do think of the third diagram (mercedes)?

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Posted: July 19, 2002 at 1:31 PM / IP Logged

I have to leave for about an hour or so, I will try to get back to you ASAP. If someone else decides to help then I'll just check up and see when I come back.

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tommy1403

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Posted: July 19, 2002 at 1:34 PM / IP Logged

thanks, i appreciate your help a lot.

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Posted: July 19, 2002 at 5:36 PM / IP Logged

I can't find any reference to a 1985 Mercedes 500 SEC model anywhere !!! So far this is what I cam up with as far as a realy configuration:

Relay # 1:
85 : 12 volt constant
86 : Alarm input wire ( - ) output ( LOCK/unlock )
30 : Green wire to Pump
87 : Ground
87a: Output of 30 from relay # 2
Relay # 2 :
85 : 12 volt constant
86 : Alarm input ( - ) output ( LOCK/unlock )
30 : To 87a of relay # 1
87 : 12 Volts
87a: GREEN wire from door

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tommy1403

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Posted: July 20, 2002 at 8:50 AM / IP Logged

what does this configuration do that will be different from the one on 12volt or the other one i faxed you? just trying to understand... thanks

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Posted: July 20, 2002 at 9:13 AM / IP Logged

Ones diagram says that the N/O for the pump relay is a ground and one says that the N/O relay is a 12 volt +. The one above is a ground when the pump relay is N/O, but the 12 volt diagram is 12 volts when N/O.

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trusdamanr

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Posted: July 21, 2002 at 5:28 PM / IP Logged

hey dont know if you still need it but hers the install manual for sec 150r....http://www.alpine1.com/html/D2_n_1_n_n.html. just click on products and use the quick link

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Posted: July 21, 2002 at 6:31 PM / IP Logged

that's the owner's manual, i already have it. i have the installation pages too, but it doesn't show how to wire the alarm to operate vacuum locks. Jeff has helped immensely, I'm gonna try his suggestion tomorrow. thanks anyway

tommy1403

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Posted: July 22, 2002 at 9:05 AM / IP Logged

i tried the new diagram and i stll don't get power to the pump. It's basically the same as the mercedes diagram i faxed you except the the 85's and 86's are switched, would that make a difference? what basically happens, when i connect the relay, the blue and green wires show 12v. when i arm it, the green drops a volt or 2 for a split second and the blue goes to ground for 3sec. when i disarm the green drops to ground for 3sec while the blue does nothing. i'll try switching the 85's and 86's and see what happens. i just want it so when i arm, i get a +12v going to the pump. and ground when i disarm.

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