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Alpine 12's vs Eclipse Alum 12's


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Alpine Guy 
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Posted: October 30, 2003 at 8:53 PM / IP Logged  
and as for an amp, go for a Alpine MRD-M500, or the JBL 600.1
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I'll second bberman with the JBL 600.1. heheh.... you know the Eclipse must be good if Alpine guy is willing to give in Alpine 12's vs Eclipse Alum 12's - Page 2 -- posted image.
If you choose to go this way definitely go for the aluminmum series. I run the very base series and they knock the wind outta me when i want them too. I was looking between either the 2 10's or i was going to step upto the 12" aluminmum but decided against it because of the power reason and also i prefer 10's. Thinking my next upgraded might be to one of those 12's!!!
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if u end up gettin 2 of em i know those things can handle alot go for the 1200.1 jbl under 300 and kix ass
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Posted: November 01, 2003 at 2:53 PM / IP Logged  

Dude, aluminum all the way. You say you want to play this thing long and loud! The Eclipse is available in either single 4 ohm or dual 4ohm so you have a huge choice of amps available to you. What $ do you want to spend on the amp? Why aluminum?

Because heat is what kills subwoofers, not distortion. A speaker reproduces distrotion when we feed it distortion. A by product of all power usage is heat. Hold onto a light bulb and tell me how hot that 100w bulb gets after 1 minute, actually don't you'll burn yourself, I think you get the point. Anyways the Eclipse has an aluminum voicecoil former thermally bonded to the aluminum cone and two really fat magnets. Expect the magnets to get really warm (they are supposed to) and expect the cone to get warmer. This means that this excellent sub is doing it's job which is why it won an Autosound Grand Prix award for Design And Excellence in Engineering. You can't go wrong with this thing. Put it into a 1.12 cu ft. sealed enclosure made out of 3/4 or 1" mdf. Screw the damn box together or use a truckload of really good wood glue and brad nails. If you can double up the baffle boeard do it as I have seem many an Aluminum sub rip right out of 3/4" mdf. Silicone all inside edges of your box and paint (yes paint) the inside of the box. MDF is extremely porous and bleeds air big time, the paint will help to seal it. Finally add a product like bassline to all walls of the box except the baffle board. If you can make yuor box with at least 1 angle on it this angle coupoed with bassline wil help cancel standing waves. It LBS. dude. Add 1 Audio Contol Epicenter and you should get bass that will shake you like a bowl of jello in an earthquake. If you can tell me if your going with the single or dual dvc sub then I'll point you in the right direction for an amp.

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Posted: November 02, 2003 at 10:24 PM / IP Logged  
ever think about infiniti kappa perfects? They sound pretty close to the aluminums...better than the type r's, But they dont suck as much juice!
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flatulatta 
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Posted: November 02, 2003 at 10:42 PM / IP Logged  
perfects slam like a mother my friend has 1 kappa reg and its almost as loud as my 2 compvr 12s
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(1) Hart Professional Square 12" in a SuperBass Box from Probox driven by a Kove 500 will make you look for earplugs and the mute button. The sub sound great at low or high volumes and Kove amps sound great. Another ave is an Audison amp on the Alpine 12. Almost ANY high end subwoofer will take as much CLEAN power as you can give it. (without getting ridiculous). I have a friend with Audison in his VW Beetle on 4 Focal Eutopia 12s and it is PERFECT. Of course as a 1st year driver, you probably don't want to pay for the Focal Eutopias. Email me with any questions. premieravp@usa.com
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