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Gentleman 
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Posted: July 30, 2002 at 7:10 PM / IP Logged  
I have a Dodge PU with aftermarket alarm, when the alarm is deactivated and the doors unlock the interior lights come on for 30 seconds, I have a handicapped person that needs more than 30 seconds to get situated and the lights go out too soon. Is there anyway to extended this time with perhaps a latching relay or some other means.
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mobiletoys2002 
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Posted: July 30, 2002 at 7:33 PM / IP Logged  
well some alarms can be programmed with a latche dout put that can be controled through the remote and reset with the ignition and a bunch of different ways . what kind of aftermarket alarm is it?????? and if your alarm has no features like this then the answer to your question is yes you can build a latching relay to do what you want.Alarm Interior Light Activation -- posted image. if you have the owners manual or installation manual you can check to see it's latching options and follow accordingly but post back with the brand of alarm and someone can help you.
topinstaller 
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Posted: July 31, 2002 at 2:41 AM / IP Logged  
Also could add an 0 - 90 sec adjustable timer ($20-$25)
I'm Don.I can answer all your security questions. I have 12 years in the industry.
Gentleman 
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Posted: July 31, 2002 at 9:46 AM / IP Logged  
Its a Crimestopper CS2000 from reading the manual I do not see an option for programming the light to stay on longer, seems like 30 sec is the max.
sparkyssb 
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Posted: July 31, 2002 at 12:10 PM / IP Logged  

Maybe want to use a capacitor to extend the time..probably need a big one depending on the amount of time you want the light to stay on....the following might help:

https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=3&TopicID=2319

but, i bet this can be done with a relay and a door pin also..but i dont know if you need light after the door is closed or what... and that might be a problem if you were to disarm your car and not go back to it for a couple of hours...the light would still be on, unless it had some kind of timing circuit on there...

SO....your best bet would be a capacitor or two if your alarm system can't make the light stay on any longer.

Anybody else agree? thanx.

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Posted: July 31, 2002 at 12:22 PM / IP Logged  

Yup , I'll have to agree on this one ( any other takers ?? ). You can have the door trigger as the activation wire so that the relay stays N/O until the doors close and then the relay will shut off the power going to it. The capacitor will slowly drain and the light will dim out as the capacitor slowly drains. The cap will re-energize when the doors are open again and the cycle will continue.

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sparkyssb 
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Posted: July 31, 2002 at 1:48 PM / IP Logged  

OK..i was reading some info on the net and got these measurements for a capacitor..

An 35WVDC electrolytic capacitor that you can get at your local radio shack:

47MFD will give you an extra 12 sec. (approx)

70MFD will give you an extra 20 sec. (approx)

You can play with the MFD ratings but the lower the number, the smaller the charge.

Also..I wouldn't go any more than 70MFD..thats alot of charge... Alarm Interior Light Activation -- posted image.

I am not that good with knowledge about capacitors so I am only posting what I saw...If any of these are wrong or it sounds like I have no idea what I'm talking about, please let me know..thanx! Alarm Interior Light Activation -- posted image.

Gentleman 
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Posted: July 31, 2002 at 3:23 PM / IP Logged  
An extra 20 seconds should work, but another question. I have been an electrician all of my working life but not very knowledgable in electronics, how would I wire the capacitor, what I have presently is a -trigger from the alarm that energizes the coil on a relay and allows a negative output from the relay to the dome light. The dome light has a constant +.
This all came about when the alarm was installed. Before that when the door was opened the dome light stayed on as long as the door was open. When the alarm was installed the installer disconnected the door activation because when the door was closed and the vehicle was started the doors would not lock, he claimed that the dome light which fades to off rather than just shutting off was making the alarm brain think the door ws still open.
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sparkyssb 
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Posted: July 31, 2002 at 9:23 PM / IP Logged  

There is a positive and a negative terminal on an electrolytic (one of which will be marked). You need to make sure you get the polarity right when you install the capacitor. You'll want to wire the neg. lead to the neg wire of the dome lamp and the positive lead to the positive wire of the dome lamp..(NOW .. THIS IS WITHOUT A RELAY..I DONT THINK YOU NEED ONE IF YA DONT MIND THE LIGHT STAYING ON FOR THE EXTRA TIME DURING ANY DOOR OPENING/ALARM DISENGAGING..)

BUT PLEASE...dont install it until someone here will verify that this is they way you should do it...i dont want you to mess up your electrical system because I 'think i know what im doing'...heheAlarm Interior Light Activation -- posted image. thanx.

cdaw 
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Posted: July 31, 2002 at 10:16 PM / IP Logged  

I think you need a resistor to regulate the dischagre rate of the cap - and a diode to prevent the charge from going the wrong way- - BUT I COULD BE WORNG.

JT

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