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f1monkey 
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Posted: January 26, 2004 at 8:39 PM / IP Logged  
I'm looking for a diagram or description of how to properly hook up my speaker leads to a relay. I'm planning on hooking up my fronts and and rears to this on off relay setup. The reason for this is because I get a slight pop from the amp on turn off sometimes and this is the only way to work around it. My amps put out 150 each in the front and 75 each in the back RMS max.
Right now I've got one relay hooked up to power a fan and 2 amps. There is also a variable turn on delay that I built in the path to turn on the relay.
Can I just daisy chain the output of the relay I have now to the speaker relays? Do I realkly need 8 30 amp relays to do this? Will there be any degradation of signal running audio through a relay?
I'm familiar with hooking up a relay but just to make sure for the speaker:
86 - turn on signal or out put from other relay
85 - ground
87 - speaker output from amp
30 - to my speakers
- Kyle
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Posted: January 27, 2004 at 10:28 AM / IP Logged  
Adjust your delay and install a diode across the coil of the relay.  See what that does.
My ex once told me I have a perfect face for radio.
f1monkey 
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Posted: January 27, 2004 at 1:38 PM / IP Logged  
and that would do what for hooking up my speakers?
I've already got a 1N4001 on the relay for the amps and fans. All that does is keep the spike from hitting the HU when I turn it off.
- Kyle
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If you install a diode across the coil of the relay for your remote tun on, it'll keep your amp from taking a hit.  Most new amps have turn on delays built in, so you may not need this on your remote lead.  Connect your remote lead to the switched accessory lead on the radio.  After this connection, put a diode in series with the radio, and install a 440 or 1000 uf capacitor in parallel.  This way your amp will power down before the deck, ridding you of the annoying turn-off pop.  Now you shouldn't need four relays.
My ex once told me I have a perfect face for radio.
f1monkey 
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Posted: January 27, 2004 at 7:40 PM / IP Logged  
and if my amp itself pops on turn off then?
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The turn off pop is usually caused by not having a suppression diode across the coils of a relay, or the deck powering down before the amp.  In the case this doesn't clear up your problem, you could try a higher value cap (more delay time), or replace the amp.
My ex once told me I have a perfect face for radio.
terryr 
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Posted: January 30, 2004 at 7:41 PM / IP Logged  

This site has stuff on car audio circuits.

http://www.bcae1.com/

danw2002 
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i have a 4 channel delayed speaker relay set up for a big Carver amp that i could sell you cheep, i have them for building custom amps for Hot Rods and such,and have  few extra.....might be easyer then makeing them, this is a full delayed curcuit with all the componits on a single board/
Danw2002, 20+ years doing custom nut ball things...in Seattle..
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try putting a 1k ohm resistor on the remote wire.  that fixes the turn on pop on factory ford amps with after market decks.  not too many people use that combination but hey, the owners who drive the car sure know more than the people who work on this stuff every day of their lifes... :rolleyes:
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hahahahahahhahahah

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