remote start in a '92 Taurus

Ok, just a few quick questions before I start (installing a Bulldog Security RS-122 Remote Start into a 1993 Taurus): Bulldog RS-122 Install ManualQUESTION 1. For the ACCESSORY /HEATER motor wires, it says if Ihave 2 motor wires (which I do) to connect the WHITE/ blackfrom the module to both of these wires. CanI just strip back each of the two wires, and "thread" them both? Just curious if the 2 wires are not allowedto touch, and you have to access them in two different spots, or if this is ok?EDIT: I called Bulldog, and asked the same question.The guy said to only use the grey / YELLOW wire, and notthe other BLACK/ green. I did as he said, and the a/cdoes not come on when remote started. So I guess I haveto use both?QUESTION 2.For the tach wire, it says it's a tan / YELLOW wireat the ignition harness, or at the coil. I was tryingto find it in the ignition harness, but couldn't.Should it be going into the rectangle piece that hasall of the constant, start, and accessory wires?In this car, I don't really see wires coming fromwhere you put the key in (like I have in other cars).Any hints? Do I have to take off the steering wheelplastic cover?Thanks!

Here's a wiring diagram that I have: check to see if this is what you have:

|       ITEM      |     WIRE COLOR     |POL|       WIRE LOCATION        |

|              12V|yellow              |+  |ignition harness            ||          STARTER|WHITE/ pink          |+  |ignition harness            ||         IGNITION|RED / lt. green       |+  |ignition harness            ||        ACCESSORY|gray / YELLOW         |+  |ignition harness            || SECOND ACCESSORY|BLACK/ green         |   |ignition harness            ||       POWER LOCK|pink / YELLOW         |*2 |either kick                 ||     POWER UNLOCK|pink/green          |*2 |either kick                 ||       LOCK MOTOR|pink/black          |   |drivers door harness        ||     UNLOCK MOTOR|RED / orange          |   |drivers door harness        ||    DISARM DEFEAT|pink/orange         |   |passengers door harness     || PARKING LIGHTS +|brown               |   |headlight switch            ||       HEADLIGHTS|RED / yellow          |+  |headlight switch            ||     DOOR TRIGGER|BLACK/ blue          |+  |either kick                 || DOME SUPERVISION|use door trigger    |   |                            ||  TRUNK/HATCH PIN|                    |   |                            ||TRNK/HTCH RELEASE|gray/red            |+  |at release switch           ||       TACHOMETER|tan / YELLOW *1       |   |ignition coil *1            ||       BRAKE WIRE|RED / lt. green       |+  |at brake switch             ||     HORN TRIGGER|yellow/lt. green    |-  |steering column             ||           WIPERS|BLACK/ pink          |+  |at switch                   ||  LF WINDOW UP/DN|yellow - red        |A  |drivers door switch         ||  RF WINDOW UP/DN|yel/blk - RED / blk   |A  |drivers door harness        ||  LR WINDOW UP/DN|yel/blu - RED / blu   |A  |drivers door harness        ||  RR WINDOW UP/DN|yel/blk - RED / blk   |A  |drivers door harness        |

Notes:

*1 For multi-coil engines the tach is gray/orange at the DIS module on the pass side of motor.  *2 Five-wire for non-keyless, negative-pulse for the keyless versions.

Jeff

Velocity Custom Home Theater

Mobile Audio/Video Specialist

Morden, Manitoba CANADA

Ok, that's exactly the wires that my chart shows.I was using the Bulldog Wiring Chart.Here's the update...I don't know if I'm color blind,or if all of our charts are wrong. Here's what happened:1. I connected the accessory wire to the grey / YELLOW as Bulldog instructed...nothing happened.2. I called them back, and then guy said to try theBLACK/ green wire. I tried that, nothing happened.3. I even tried using both of these (like the manualsaid, but unlike bulldog techs said), and that didn't work either.Hmmm...then I see 2 other wires in the harness thatcould also slightly resemble "grey / YELLOW", althoughthe yellow part is darker than the one I tried in #1.So I tried one of them anyway, and lo and behold, the a/ccame on. So, I tried the other, and it worked, too.So now what do I do? Are those the actual wires that I'msupposed to be using? I just hope it's not the wrongwire, but it works anyway. By the way, all 4 wires I'vespoke of showed 12v+ in the RUN position. None showed12v+ in the OFF position. And only the BLACK/ green showed 12v+ in the ACC position. Ay caramba!Now I'm starting to think the 1st grey / YELLOW wire I tried could be the tach wire that I can't find. I saw the tan / YELLOW wire by the distributor, and it lookslike a different shade (and size) from this wire, but I'm not sure.I was unable to test it with a DMM, but they said itwould be in the same spot, and it's not any of theothers.Ok, I've blabbed enough.1. Should I just use 1 of these 2 new "grey / YELLOW" wires?2. Is the original "grey / YELLOW" the "tan / YELLOW" I'm looking for?

Ok, here's a crappy picture of the ignition harness:The grey / YELLOW is the wire I tried first but didn't work.Could this be tach? I know, I have to test it:)The BLACK/ green I tried second but didn't work is not in the picture.The RED / light green is the ignition. That's fine.The two wires labeled grey/"yellow" are the ones thatworked for the a/c (when I used them alone). 

I have also run into some FORDS that required all three GRAY / YELLOW wires to be hooked up in order for the ACC to work properly. Have you tried that ?Jeff

Velocity Custom Home Theater

Mobile Audio/Video Specialist

Morden, Manitoba CANADA

Hmmm....well, no...I didn't try all 3 gray / YELLOW wires (man, that would be tough...it's so tight in there ).

1.  Anywho, when I tried 1 of the 2 other gray / YELLOW wires, it worked.

Is that ok?  I'm just afraid that if I leave it, and it's not reallythe correct wire, I'll be killing something without knowing it.  Can you just go with what works, so to speak?

cdaw:  yea, it's a bit confusing with ACC.  They say to use the wire that

shows 12v+ in the RUN position, but that was the wire that didn't work.

2.  They say the tan / YELLOW tach is in this same spot?  Is it in the picture

that I have above, or is that not the ignition harness?

Thanks guys.

Quote: Originally posted by Velocity Motors on August 08, 2002

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Notes:*1 For multi-coil engines the tach is gray/orange at the DIS module on the pass side of motor.

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Hmm, I just saw this part from your post above.  What's the DIS module?  I guess it's still inside the engine bay?

velocity is right these ignition wires must be all energized your car is a bit tricky at the ignition switch you have multiple 12 volt constants all yellow and you hav e3 ignition wires that all need to powered.im gonna look at my diagram one more time and give you specifics