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sxytallguy 
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Posted: March 29, 2004 at 4:19 AM / IP Logged  

i installed a clifford concept 400 in my 2000 intrepid that already had rke installed. the concept wont lock/unlock the doors, so i disconnected the wires and tried the rke remote. the doors lock/unlock with rke remote. i mustve not wired them up correctly. so,  i read that you need to tap into the WHITE/ dark green wire located at the bcm pin 5 c4 and install 2.7k resistor for lock, 620 for unlock on same wire.  so do youtap in two seperate spots on the wire 1 for 2.7 to lock and 2nd 620 for unlock? also, how would i know which of the 6 different colors of lock/unlock wires work for my doors? they are as follows....

RED / orange door unlock normally open

gray/green door lock normally closed

RED / green door lock normally open

gray orange door unlock normally closed

WHITE/ orange door unlock common

WHITE/ green door lock common

now my door locks are positive, did i need relays to invert polarity? i not sure, but i dont recall the install instructions i downloaded said which polarity the alaem needed to function locks correctly.

also, i tried hooking up starter kill and my car wouldnt start at all. this alarm has a double immobilization feature, with 4 wires. manual said to find +12v ign wire that shows constant power until ign is turned to off position. of the two wires suggested (i tested both with no luck) i decided red was the case cause pink/black wire lost consistancy during cranking, so i cut it (red). then it tested yellow wire, power only at cranking, and cut it.

WHITE/ brown goes to ign side of wire cut. (red wire)

GREEN/ blue goes to eng side of  wire cut (red wire)

WHITE/ green goes to starter in side of cut wire (yellow wire)

WHITE/ green goes to starter out side of cut nwire (yellow wire)

did this starter kill feature need relays to work properly? if brain is messed up, can i hook up starer kill through aux outs of alarm?

i also should mention the car was stolen and the ign is busted, so maybe that is the problem. with no key maybe the ign doesnt let the brain receive a true signal. so for now, i jumped the the cut yellow wire back together and take out one side upon exit, and reconnected the red wire.

lastly, my valet/programming switch isnt functioning at all. manual says to turn ign to on, hit * 2 times, then blank unmarked button once. then hold down * for three seconds. this will enable programming mode. i need to be able to enter programming so i can correctly test all functions, and also set up features like black jax (anti car jacking)and turn off auto arming and such.

any help would be greatly appreciated

paul

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Posted: March 29, 2004 at 6:00 AM / IP Logged  
Power Lock WHITE/ D GREEN 16 PIN CONN. IN ACCESS HOLE ** #217
Power Unlock SINGEL WIRE SYSTEM IN DRIVER KICK OR HIGH IN DR. KICK
**Doorlocks Require +12v Pulse Thru 2.7k Ohm Risitor For Lock And +12v Pulse Thru 620 ohm Resistor For Unlock Wire Color Is WHITE/ DARK GREEN #217- See Single Wire Resistor Door Lock System Diagram.
Good Luck
David
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  • RED / orange door unlock normally open ---------- To (+) fused wire
  • RED / green door lock normally open ---------- To (+) fused wire
  • WHITE/ orange door unlock common ---------- place 620 ohms resistor inline of this wire to the WHITE/ GREEN wire at the BCM
  • WHITE/ green door lock common ---------- place 2.7 K resistor inline of this wire to the WHITE/ GREEN wire at the BCM

The unit has internal relays that you can change the polarity of so that it can output the proper polarity when hooked up properly.

Here are the colors for the IGN : dk. blue/white and the STARTER : YELLOW and both are found at the ignition harness. The RED wire that you cut is one of the primary 12 volt constant wires ( you need to reconnect this in order for the car to operate at all )

As far as the VALET switch goes, you probably did n't have the proer igntion wire hooked up to the system, so it doesn't recognize the sequence if the wiring is incorrect.

Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

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