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snoVVman 
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Posted: April 18, 2004 at 7:10 PM / IP Logged  

Hello,

I am trying to run eight wires from the driver's kick panel area to the driver's door.  The vehicle is a 2002 Lincoln Navigator.  I need these wires run for the window module (up/down configuration).  The wire that I MUST access at the door is for the driver's "up" function, wired from the switch to the motor.  The rest, from studying the diagram, can be found at he kick panel.

Here is the problem:  Using the factory route--the rubber boot connecting the door and kick panel, I tried a fish tape and stiff wires from both directions (kick panel to door/door to kick panel) but cannot get through.  I can see and feel the fish tape going from the door up to and near the kick panel but it gets hung up somewhere just before the entry point.  Wrapping with tape and grease do not help.  From the kick panel, I cannot see the entry location.  Even with many panels and trim pieces removed, I can barely get my fingers on the entry point.  It is blocked by the parking brake mechanism (along with auto-relase parking brake components) and GEM module.

I am certain that somone has done this.  What is the trick?

Thanks,

JAMES.

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Posted: April 18, 2004 at 7:17 PM / IP Logged  
The only recommendation I can make since you have tried both ways is to try to run the fish along the factory harness and see if you can get it. Just look along the kickpanel for the wiring going into the door and try to run your fish in the same route.
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snoVVman 
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Thanks for your response.  The factory route is indeed the one I am trying to use.  There is a rubber boot connecting the door and the kick panel.  Inside, there is a wireloom, tightly taped.  I am trying to route the fish tape along the wireloom inside the boot. 

The real trouble is that the entry point inside the kick panel is blocked by the parking brake mechanism and I can barely put a few fingers on it.  Removing the mechanism seems impractical.

JAMES.

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use some wd-40 to help the wires move through the rubber boot.
also use a flash light and shine it in the hole that the boot was in. now look in the inside and see where the light is. that way you will know where the most room is to work with...
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one trick i have always used in this kind of tricky situation was to just reach inbetween the door and the body and pull the boot out of the door and body...then route the fishtape throught the big hole and you can bend the boot any way you want to let the fishtape through
if its jammed force it - if it breaks in the process it needed to be fixed anyway
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Yes remove the boot at both ends and then run your wires through. There is an opening on the bottom of the drivers kick were the wire can come out of the bottom. You ahve to use your fish tape and run it straight down the drivers kick and out that acesses opening.
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Any Ford with those huge grommets in the door are easy. Push the boot 90% of the way into the drivers door. Take a plastic snake and feed it into the vehicle but go up towards the dash, not down to the kick panel area. You'll never be able to find the snake if you go down to the kick panel area. I did window modules in an Expedition for a customer a couple months ago....they are the same thing as a Navigator.
Another thing to use is a light. Shine it in thru the hole from the outside and you should be able to see it shining thru from the inside.
snoVVman 
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Posted: April 19, 2004 at 1:28 PM / IP Logged  

Thanks for the many responses.  It would appear that the consensus is to pull out the boot to run the fish tape.

Question for those who have done it: is it difficult, after disconnecting the boot from the door or door jamb, to get the grommet portion back into the door/door jamb properly?

Thanks again!

JAMES.

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If it's hard to get the grommet back on, use some wd40 around the grommet, and it'll pop right back on. bit messy // slippery though...
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You don't actually remove the boot, you just slide it into the door.
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