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robb420in323 
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when some guy only has 20bucks for a cheap deck to go in an omni.

and all you get is 15bucks for doing it 6oclock on a sat night..

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envoy62 
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Solder and heatshrink tube for insulation will give the cleanest and better looking connections. Second option would be the crimp terminals.

Twist wires together and tape them then is a bad design, just think about the vibrations in your car and how these connections might losen up over time, this sort of setup calls for all kinds of problems, there can be samll contact resistances that if they are in a high current connection will generate subsatnstial voltage drops etc,, not to speak of potential for short circuits.

Soldering is taking more time but on the long run will be better.

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envoy62 
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Welding and heat shrink tube will give the best contact and also best looking results. Next would be crimping. Twisted wire taped together is nothing i would do. It only calls for problems with bad connections, short circuits etc. In a vehicle there is quite some vibration that the wire connections will be exposed to so a welded conection is to prefer over the others and even more if it's a high end system

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flynntech 
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I solder everything, maybee overkill but I never have connection related problems. For HU harnesses, I solder all of the wires, then tape and zip-tie. Sometimes I use shrink tube, but I'm always running out of that stuff.

I always solder the terminals for the grounds and battery connections which are exposed to the elements (engine bay), I sweat the lugs on with about a foot of rosin core and a propane torch.  I connect the fuse holder with electrical grease and I tape it up real good, wire loom, the works....most people agree it's pretty hard to find the power wire in my installs. I really make it look like a part of the motor wiring.

kidtransam 
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robb420in323 wrote:

when some guy only has 20bucks for a cheap deck to go in an omni.

and all you get is 15bucks for doing it 6oclock on a sat night..

Um, so basically the guy with the omni paid you 15 bux to make his car a mobile fire hazard?
If you want to call yourself an installer, you have to understand that an omni and a bmw get the same install..if you do it for 15 bux..thats your problem.
With a torch and a big enough hammer...it WILL friggin fit!!
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kidtransam wrote:
Um, so basically the guy with the omni paid you 15 bux to make his car a mobile fire hazard?
With a torch and a big enough hammer...it WILL friggin fit!!
This coming from someone with that stupid sig?
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Posted: August 24, 2004 at 7:00 PM / IP Logged  
solder and shrink... no substitute for doing it RIGHT the first time.
Like my grandpappy used to say: "If you don't have time to do it right the first time, how are you going to find time to come back and do it again?"
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
heavilymedicate 
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Solder when were I can (heat shrink preferred, tape acceptable).  Crimp were I cant.  Never, ever twist and tape.  Never, ever.  I use crimps on deck installs.  Solder power/ground and speaker wires at amps and batteries. Dont be cheap or lazy, at the very least go to Wal-mart and buy a crimper and connectors.  This is the least you can do.
kidtransam 
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Stupid sig?
ok lesson time..that is a simple little saying..meant to be funny...but oh well.
Oh btw when somebody tells you something, do you hold a multimeter to their forehead while there talking?..OH WAIT...its supposed to be funny.
congrats genius.
With a torch and a big enough hammer...it WILL friggin fit!!
beady 
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Posted: August 24, 2004 at 7:44 PM / IP Logged  

Solder and heat shrink.

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