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What would be the best gauge for wiring up my speakers and sub? I have the infinity kappa perfect 6.1 components @ 100w rms. For the Subs i have the Xtant x1244 @ 500w rms. Can anyone tell me what would be the best wire gauges for performance and what exactly is necessary? Does anyone know the ranges of watts should each gauges of wire? Im pretty new. thanks

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You can pretty much use 16 gage wire for any speaker as the current is relatively low.  If want to use 14 gage for your subs.
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I am using 14 for my components (50w rms) and 12 for the subwoofer (250w rms).  I have used bigger wires (when people insist) and smaller when I use the factory wiring in a vehicle.  I have never heard a difference in the sound that I can attribute to the wire size.  What Dyohn posted is a solid wire size IMO.  If you want to impress your friends go ahead and get  big-arse wires.  Just know that the ones that count the most are the positive and ground wires to your amp.
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You should know this about wires in your car audio system:  the simple Ohm's law formula that says Volts X Amperes = Watts.  Better known as P = I X E.  Which means the more voltage you have the less amps are needed to produce power.  A large wire is necessary to get power for the amp from the car's 12 volt system, because the amperage can get high to make up for the small amount of voltage available.  But the amplifier's job is to make more voltage.  With more volts, the amperes are less to get the Power in watts (P=I*E).  So that's why speaker wires can be smaller than the power and ground wires that feed the amplifier.  Amperes (or amps) is the name for current, and that's what flows through the wires.

High voltage/low current = small wire.   Low voltage/high current = large wire.

16 gauge for any speaker is all you'll ever need, especially in short runs where resistance is not much of a factor.  If anything, use the larger wire in the longest runs, like to the fronts, where the length of the wire would start to play a role in its ability to transfer the current.  But oftentimes, people will use a large wire in a short run from the amplifier to the sub...just for looks.  It never hurts to do that, it's just not necessary.

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I run 12AWG for my subs, and 16AWG for my full range.
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I had a friend tell me that a 22 gauge wire is necessary and that a 18 gauge isnt. Is this true? he said that 18 is too thick and that it requires more power to run this gauge wire. what happens when your gauge wire is too small?
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you don't have the sound quality or the power to make them pound
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pumara_iep wrote:
I had a friend tell me that a 22 gauge wire is necessary and that a 18 gauge isnt.
That is dependant upon the run / length the wire has to travel, and amount of current the circuit will carry.
pumara_iep wrote:
he said that 18 is too thick and that it requires more power to run this gauge wire.
Your friend needs to spend some more time reading the facts, and asking people who know. The lower the number, the thicker the wire diameter.
ie. 22 guage is smaller, compared to 18 guage which is larger in diameter.
The 22 guage wire would impose more resistance, causing more comsumption of current, and creating more heat.
pumara_iep wrote:
what happens when your gauge wire is too small?
If the wire is asked to flow more current than it is designed to carry. Then, either the wire will break open, start on fire, or fuse together.
Fusing is one factor, the insulation being used on the conductor is the secondary factor which affects the current capability of the wire. Wire diameter and the metal used is the primary factor which affects current flow.
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thanx tekken. Does any one know where to find information on wiring? Not how to wire, but the facts about how wirings works.
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what happens when your wire is too big?
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