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xtreamcc 
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Posted: September 13, 2004 at 8:50 PM / IP Logged  
Ok, this is my vent. Here's the deal, if anyones looked at my site recently you'll note that my boys celica that we were going to rebuilt has been flooded out and is now scrap metal. Anyway, this dude with a MX-6 we've worked on wants to sell it with the stereo he and his cousin installed but the stereo quit working so they asked myself and my boy check it out. The only reson we did this is because were geting this car so we dont want it to be anymore screwed up than it is. Now, I've seen a bad install or two in my day, but this one just was the worst I've ever seen hands on (this is topped only by that RSX scary install on Hzemall.com).
To start, I'm just gona point out the major F Ups.
1) The power wire. This is just WRONG. They ran 10 AWG wire, nothing wrong with that, you'll get enough power to run a small amp. Anyway, they decided to hook 2 amps up (this is event more screwed up as I'll explain later) so they spliced and steped up to 8 AWG wiring from the 10 AWG..... need I say more? To top it all off they used a glass fuse, not a big AGU fuse, a little tiny, OLD ASS Toyota glass fuse. This was scary.
2) The ground. Ok, all I have to say about this is 10 AWG, steped up into 8 AWG, at least the were consistant there, but the placement was just a little off, u know, since the wire was just wrapped around this bolt on the rear deck, YEAH! Lets just say I know why that fuse blew.
3) The RCA's, AHHHHH, at this point I was ready to cry. This dude, instead of buying a pair of y-splitters for $5 cut up 2 pairs of $10 RCA's and spliced them together. Thats all I'm saying, this was too f**ked up for me.
4) The speaker wire. Yeah, OMG is all I could say. The box was 2 8 ohm JL w0's wired in parellel to get a 4 Ohm load. These guys had a 2 Ch and a 4 Ch amp..... all 3 available bridging options, BRIDGED TOGETHER. Humm, why does it cut off??? UHHHHHHHHHH, yeah, someone's been smokin crack.
Ok, thats all I'm going to cover, there was more. Anyway, this guy said it took him and his cousin all of friday after noon, like around 5-6 hours to do it. Me and my boy dropped in 4 AWG wiring, stepped it down to 8 awg into the amps using, OMG!?! a distribution block! Put connectors on EVERYTHING, got a new set of RCA's and some Y-Splitters, properly wired the entire factory highs to the 4 ch amp, wired the subs properly and numberous other things in under 2 hours.
The moral of this story is this. If you dont know WTF ur doing, u dont have any right what so ever to install stereos. If u are an ameture and u want to learn, ASK A PROFESSIONAL. People like me are always willing to explain ANYTHING to do with installation.
GRRRRRRRR, ok, I'm done venting.
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02 Jeep Grand Cherokee
Monster System on its way.
flynntech 
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Joined: April 15, 2004
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Posted: September 13, 2004 at 9:03 PM / IP Logged  

I've seen a 4 channel amp with the left front and rear to the rear deck speakers and the right to the subs...now that' smoking some crack!

I've seen some horrid vidio and security installs, I don't even want to think about it, I might have nightmares tonight.

I say let the youngsters screw things up all they want, it's good entertainment. As long as they can evacuate the vehicle safely while it burns to the ground...no harm done.

Alpine Guy 
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Posted: September 13, 2004 at 9:05 PM / IP Logged  
Gota love those installs!   I had one guy come in with his rca's comming out of a hole he drilled in his dash kit, , straight back to the top of his rear seat, then into his trunk.    The rca's were so tight you could pluck them like a guitar.  They were litterally eye level for the passengers in the back seat haha.
2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.
xtreamcc 
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Posted: September 13, 2004 at 9:08 PM / IP Logged  
Alpine Guy wrote:
Gota love those installs!   I had one guy come in with his rca's comming out of a hole he drilled in his dash kit, , straight back to the top of his rear seat, then into his trunk.    The rca's were so tight you could pluck them like a guitar.  They were litterally eye level for the passengers in the back seat haha.
And this dude, he's dead now right? haha
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02 Jeep Grand Cherokee
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Charles_R_H 
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Posted: September 13, 2004 at 9:46 PM / IP Logged  

I love doing deck installs where there is already an aftermarket deck and amp and whoever ran the rca's started at the deck and pulled all the slack out

it's great!!!  go's right along with no slack in the led wiring when you're trying to remove a dash piece

God help us all

electronics run off of smoke, when you let the smoke out they stop working
Velocity Motors 
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Posted: September 13, 2004 at 9:53 PM / IP Logged  
I know all of you have had this one before.............. taking out an aftermarket deck to see all the wires twisted together and either duct tape or that clear tape you use for posters holding them together. Now that's a fire waiting to happen.
Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
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Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Charles_R_H 
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Posted: September 13, 2004 at 10:18 PM / IP Logged  

one guy i use to work with said he saw ALL  of the wires twisted togeter in a big ball and then taped over  LOL

must have been multiplexed   LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

electronics run off of smoke, when you let the smoke out they stop working
rallysport 
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Posted: September 13, 2004 at 10:38 PM / IP Logged  

calling that ghetto install is being to nice

i had a guy come in asking why his fuse to his amp kept blowing. he had a 3rd gen camaro and for his ground he just through the wire into some crevice by the rear hatch, not screwed down to the metal not even wrapped around a bolt, just thrown there. he said "whenever i go arounda  turn the amp cuts out"

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Posted: September 13, 2004 at 10:38 PM / IP Logged  
Either multiplexed or common ground & power learn to install people! -- posted image.
Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Charles_R_H 
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Posted: September 13, 2004 at 10:44 PM / IP Logged  

yeah LOL

that amp must of had what we call a floating ground!!!! LOL

I love when the 1979 caddy rolls in with the foil fuses!!!!!!!!! LOL

And then the guy accuses you of being racist when you tell him that you can't work on the car because it is a fire hazard

electronics run off of smoke, when you let the smoke out they stop working
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