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threesquare 
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Posted: October 01, 2004 at 12:34 AM / IP Logged  

hello all.

i installed a compustar a/s  in a honda accord 03 ex.
everything test out fine,  start up great.

the only problem left is the drained battery.  it have been happening three times.

i wire all the wire up correctly.  i'm using in two additional modules in conjuction with the alarm.  both from bypasskit.com  pkh3 immobilizer bypass  and a HODL2 interface.
both work great.

i have my MM in the battery to test it and the voltage is dropping slowly.

i try unplugging things one at a time to see if it stop dropping.
nothing yet.
i notice just now that when i arm the alarm, lock the door, everything is closed.
but
i can still see the window roll up/down switch is still light up.  for both
the driver and passenger doors.
and i reach in and i can still operate the windows  when the car is lock and
armed.
is this why the battery drain!?   please help this is the last problem i
have.  =\  so frustrated.

thanks

threesquare 
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Posted: October 01, 2004 at 12:57 AM / IP Logged  

nevermind the window light switch  is gone now.

but it's still dropping.

any clue?

brucejf69 
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Posted: October 01, 2004 at 1:04 AM / IP Logged  
Funny thing..my friend just had the high end 2-way compustar installed in his 00 Explorer the other day and the exact same thing happened to him.  I am not sure if they ahve solved the problem yet but one thing they said is that the alarm may not have been allowing the vehicle to go into what they called "sleep mode".  I will try to keep you posted on the solution.
Velocity Motors 
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Posted: October 01, 2004 at 1:24 AM / IP Logged  
Do you have any current on the ground out when running wire ?
Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
threesquare 
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Posted: October 01, 2004 at 1:39 AM / IP Logged  

Velocity Motors wrote:
Do you have any current on the ground out when running wire ?

according to the install tech sheet.

connector #1, pin5  violet wire
provide - ouput anytime the unit isarmed or remote started.  this is prewired into the starter-kill
there's no current on that wire when armed.

however  when as a test i have the MM on the battery to measure drop voltage.

i remove both the relays for starter kill and 2nd acc/ign/starter   and unhook the data wire from the  HODL2  interface module.  and the the voltage stop dropping.
i'm going to try and isolate which of the above is drainning it.  which relays and the data wire?

thanks for the reply guys.

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Posted: October 01, 2004 at 1:47 AM / IP Logged  
The thing is you NOT supposed to use the STARTER DISABLE wire for your transponder modules or door lock modules because this will always be ON when the system is armed, not to mention this totally defeats the Immobilizer system in the vehicle if the module is engaged while armed. There should be a wire that is ONLY (-) when remote started or one that you can program to only have (-) when remote started ?
Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
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Morden, Manitoba CANADA
threesquare 
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Velocity Motors wrote:
The thing is you NOT supposed to use the STARTER DISABLE wire for your transponder modules or door lock modules because this will always be ON when the system is armed, not to mention this totally defeats the Immobilizer system in the vehicle if the module is engaged while armed. There should be a wire that is ONLY (-) when remote started or one that you can program to only have (-) when remote started ?

sorry i should clarify.  the data wire from the door lock module  is connected straight to the car data wire.    when i said i unhook the relays and the data wire i meant i unhook each relay and the data wire also.   the data wire isn't connected to any relay.

sorry for the misleading info.

threesquare 
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here's a write up of all the connection i made  from the compustar brain to the car and from the two modules.  and some wiring diagram for everything.

please help me for this is the last problem i have to tackle.
this is my first installation of this kind.
thank you all

pdf manual for my compustar alarm

with wiring instruction
http://www.compustar.org/support/manuals/wiring_manuals/CM3000_wiring_manual.pdf
http://www.compustar.org/support/manuals/install_manuals/CM3000_install_manual.pdf
wiring diagram for my car
http://www.directechs.com/directwire/wire_body.asp?action=select&yr=5234&product=Remote%20Start
http://www.directechs.com/directwire/wire_body.asp?action=select&yr=5234&product=Security

wiring diagram for HODL2 door interface

https://shop.bypasskit.com/OriginalManual/HODL2_H1S1D2_I.PDF
wiring diagram for PKH3 immobilizer bypass
https://shop.bypasskit.com/OriginalManual/PKH3_H6S4D1_I.PDF

connector #1

pin1.  constant power
 connect to white wire at ign harness, pin 3 is wired to this also
pin2.  positive parking light ouput
 connect to RED / blk wire plug above fuse box
 this is confirm, the parking light blink when arm/disarm alarm.
pin3.  power the unit and to relay for 2nd ign/2nd acc/2nd starter. the relay is prewired. connect to white wire at ign harness, pin 1 is also wired to this.
pin4.  + accessory  activate blower motor for heater/AC
 connect to BLACK/ red wire in ign harness
pin5.  (-) when armed out  pre-wired into starter-kill relay.
pin6. (+)starter output
 prewired into starter-kill relay.
 starter kill relay, have two lead to interrupt starter wire.
 yellow/black to key side of the starter wire.
 yellow connect to motor side of starter wire.
 this is confirm. since the car does start with remote.
pin7.  (+) ignition  connect to BLACK / YELLOW  in ign harness
pin8.  ground

connector #2

pin1.  (-) parking light output
 according to diagram it's BLACK/ red or blue/red in steering column cover.
 couldn't locate so didn't connect.  parking light still work from (+) parking light output from connector#1 pin2
pin2.  (-) status out wire
 i split this wire to the two modules.  Pkh3 immobilizer bypass, HODL2 doorlock  interface. both from bypasskit.com
 i put a diode in between the modules and the brain. to protect the brain.
 since it's a (-) current   i place the gray dash on the diode toward the brain.
 is this correct?
pin3,pin4 and pin5
all of the above is for (-) 2nd igniton/accessory/starter
i can wire the above pin to the 2nd relay to get a (+) trigger ouput.
i have not yet wire any of the above to any connection.
my car have a 2nd accessory.  WHITE/ red in ignition harness.
some one said i should wire the 2nd accessory to  radio harness so the radio would come on when remote started.
please advise what i should do with the above wires.

Connector #3

pin1. parking brake.
 did not use.  i have a auto tranny. and i don't need turbo timer.
 wat is turbo timer for?  it suppose to keep the car running when the ebrake is  engage and it shut off the car after 5 minutes?
 is it for car with turbo?
pin2. (-) shutdown for hood trigger.
 wired to HODL2 module.  wire to violet/white (-)hood trigger ouput.
 this is confirm. alarm won't arm when hood is open and won't remotestart car.
pin3. shutdown for foot brake.
 WHITE/ blck  at brake pedal switch.
 confirm.  car shut down when press on brake w/o key in
pin4. (-) trigger input for trunk pin.
 connect to (-) trunk input orange wire in HODL2
pin5. (-) trigger input for door
 connect to (-) door trigger input pink/white wire in HODL2
pin6. (+) input trigger for door
 i don't have (+) trigger for door.  not connected.
pin7/8 glow plug.  only for diesel car.  not connected.

pin9. tach wire.

 connect to blue/red tach wire in ECM. confirm with compustar brain.

connector #4

pin1. no connection
pin2. (-) 200mA trunk release.
 wire to a relay to convert the polarity for my (+) trunk release wire.
 confirm. trunk open.
pin3. driver's door priority unlock.
 not connected.
pin4. (+)/(-) lock ouput  connect to lock input in HODL2
pin5.  (+)/(-) lock ouput connect to unlock input in HODL2
 both confirm.  door unlock/lock with remote
pin6.  no connection

connector #5

pin1 rearm wire
pin2 disarm wire
 not connected to both.  since HODL2 will disarm/arm the factory alarm.
pin3 domelight wire.
 not connected. my interior light already come on when unlock.
pin4. siren output.  connected and confirm
pin5.   horn honk.  connected and confirm.

thanks again.  please provide help asap.

i'm trying to finish and clean up this whole install by this weekend.
this is the second weekend i spent on this.

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Posted: October 01, 2004 at 9:07 AM / IP Logged  

threesquare wrote:
 i put a diode in between the modules and the brain. to protect the brain.
 since it's a (-) current   i place the gray dash on the diode toward the brain.
 is this correct?

flip this the other way. cathode band should be facing the trigger's ( away from the alarm )

Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Velocity Motors 
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Posted: October 01, 2004 at 9:12 AM / IP Logged  

threesquare wrote:
my car have a 2nd accessory.  WHITE/ red in ignition harness.
some one said i should wire the 2nd accessory to  radio harness so the radio would come on when remote started.
please advise what i should do with the above wires.

It is good to hook up all necessary ignition wires to replicate the starting process of the OEM system. Sometimes 2nd ACC power's important features like HVAC fans or cores, while other's just power up radio's and other acccessories.

Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
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