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warpedhalo 
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Posted: October 04, 2004 at 9:42 PM / IP Logged  

hmmm, so the majority says rockford. I have to check someting... I need to run the t/s parameters on the hx2's vs. 2 15" natural excursions, because my buddy has 2 hx2s and they are 10's and he killed me on the lows. If WinISD says that the audiobhans will be lower, I'll know better. It wasn't a comparison.. the 2 10" punch hx2s killed my 2 15" natural excursions. That's a bad sign. Maybe the t/s parameters of a audiobahn is also a lie? I would think that it would be a poor selling point for abahn to give inaccurate t/s parameters b/c it'll mess up the sub when you build a box to the inaccurate specs. That's why I guess I assumed they were right. But I'll have to see. I'm going to bet the abahn says it'll be louder. I'll let you all know.

boxmaker85 
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Posted: October 04, 2004 at 10:57 PM / IP Logged  
If you're wanting/able to spend a few hundred on a sub then go w/ something other than RF.  That is unless you can get you're hands on some oldschool rf.  Their old stuff (like 5+ years old) are some nice speakers/amps.  But yeah I've heard people on this site rave about the eclipses.  I personally have a 10" Infinity kappa and it's hooked up to a pos kenmore amp and it still hits as hard as two 12 audio's and this new $hit RF's w/ great sq.  Have fun!!
warpedhalo 
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Posted: October 04, 2004 at 11:19 PM / IP Logged  
well, I'm looking for loud really for comps... do you guys think that 3 RF Punch HX2 10's will be as loud as 2 15" audiobahn immortals? Sound quality is nice, but loud is a lot what I'm after. I have an ma audio 602sx amp, "3600" rms, so like 2700. The Rfs will not take that, so with all of that considererd you know. Immortals will take it, but wattage isn't everything. Can I get 3 hx2's louder with what I got?
Rushman 
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Im in the process of building a system with 4 10' immortalls pushed with audiobahns A5000spl amp. I'll let you know how they hit in a couple of weeks. Lots of fiberglass work till then.
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Posted: October 05, 2004 at 10:23 AM / IP Logged  
3 HX2's cant take 2700 watts? Since when? HX2's Peak at 1000, so 3 of them would be 3000 watts peak. Just make sure ur not clip'n them and you'll be fine. I'd personally expect the Immortals to either over heat and burn their VC's or to over excurd and destroy their suspension, but I may be wrong, I've only played around with their Eternal series of MASSIVLY large subwoofers. Anyway, I'd say if ur only interested in RF or Audiobahn, that the 3 HX2's in a properly tuned ported box will own everything except 4 HX2's in a properly tuned ported box hehe.
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warpedhalo 
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Posted: October 05, 2004 at 10:56 AM / IP Logged  
I ment more or less the hx2s can't take it every day all day. They wouldn't be able to get rid of the heat. I'm looking to go with a 16 volt variable alternator for comps, so I'll most likely be getting about 3600 out of the amp. That's a little much right? The Abahns were made to take it, at least my immortals are supposed to be, but like I may have said, a guy in my town hit the record aorund here with 3 hx2s, and he can get me a deal on them. He can also help me out, he got out of the comps and stuff and is still interested enought to help me. He said that he hit like 150s off a rockford 2000 watt amp. He only really had his trunk dynamatted too, he didnt' do much acoustically. This makes me VERY interested, but WinISD is saying that the audiobahns will be a lot louder, and I rely too much on that program. My mind sees the huge difference in the curves between the rf and the abahns and tells me I'd be stupid not to go with the abahns. Local records tell me to go with the rfs. It's aweful, i don't know what to do. Most everyone is telling me rockfords, but is it just because audiobahn has a crappy name? I've heard the immortals are almost exacylt the same sub as a DD9#### some other numbers... but I know DD has a good name. So if they are similar or equal in moto structure and all that stuff, why would or how could the sudiobahn be worse. I don't know weather to trust that rockford is better because everyone saya audiobahn is crap, or if this is one of those chevy vs. ford deals, you know? I know that the rockfords my buddy had killed my 15" audiobahns, but I pluged that into the WinISD program and it said that it should have. I just bought crappy audiobahns. Had I gone with the next line up, WinIDS says that I would have beaten him. I can't argue with results from the rfs, but WinISD has to be close right? and according to it, the audiobahn ound q's will be like 10 dB louder at almost any frequency. I tried the audiobahns at half rms wattage, and same thing... well, not 10 db but still higher. Everything I did to degrade the audiobahns came out in the end louder. But again, I can't argue with results. It's just hard to get over the projected outcome WinISD is giving me I guess. This is why I turned to the forum, I hoped someone had worked with both.
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Posted: October 05, 2004 at 11:48 AM / IP Logged  
WinISD is good for getting an idea of what you're looking for.  I've seen stat sheets tellin a guy he should only be hitting around 139.5 db and they pound at 147 something.  The only way to really see (or hear in this case) is to put the subs you like in your car with your setup and listen to it w/ your ears.  Then you decide who is loudest.  I've heard the rf hx2 and they are "loud" heard louder but if you're on a budget then..... But I've also heard Audiobahan's (not sure which some of their nicer stuff) and they were loud (probably louder then rf).  But everyone's sayin' that the audio's will fry easily.  I'll let you choose from the two.
poeticdrums 
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Posted: October 05, 2004 at 3:22 PM / IP Logged  

To answer your questions: between Rockfrod and Audiobahn I'd go with Rockford. I've never owned either of the two but from what I hear throughout the Car Audio world, I hear that Rockford Fosgate is not all that bad of a sub. They get nice and loud but lack in SQ. Altough what SQ they have  they will beat Audiobahn hands down. Plus, for all the stories I've heard with Audiobahn, not a single one has been a good one. And in fact at the supernats here some poser kid pulled up with his 2 12" Audiobahns and fried them in front of my eyes. I guess he liked the sound of ripping paper all too much. 

poeticdrums 
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Posted: October 05, 2004 at 3:23 PM / IP Logged  

But, if you ever shy away from one of those company's, hit Infinity up. They make a damn good product for the price and they sound oooooh soo good.

97neon 
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Posted: October 05, 2004 at 3:37 PM / IP Logged  
don't buy audiobahn, i have(had) the AWT15X, the biggest one, 3000 RMS< i put it in a 5 cubic foot box to specs, and it blew up in 1 hour, i put 1100 rms on it from a memphis 1000d, i bitched for weeks for them to repair it, and they said they don't cover blown voicecoils, well, they tried saying IF I HAD A CAP, IT WOULDN'T HAVE BLOWN UP, lol, what a crok of sh*t, so i finally got them to fix because of FORBIDDEN form this site talked to them for me, and it has been 5 months now, and they still have not fixed the sub, so, don;t buy audiobahn, cause there sh*t,
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