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brianh 
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I am fixing to install a alarm/remote start on my brothers explorer.  Any suggestions on how to bypass the transponder without giving up the key?  I have all the wiring info on the vehicle just this last hurddle. Thanks in advance.       Brian
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 there is no way to bypass a pats system without a key but you can try a 555f from dei this is a keyless module that will learn the code from the key and send it back upon remote start but this module has had problems on some fords and does not always work that good. Your best option would be to find a locksmith that can do transponder keys, when you find one you will need 2 working keys and the car and they can clone you a new key. After you get the new key you can get a 555u from dei and put the key in the module this will work everytime and it will keep your transponder factory without any changes. I have found good locksmiths that will clone keys for 35 dollars this is much cheaper than going to  a dealer because delaers charge about 60 dollars a key and most want to reprogram all keys for the car and this will cost over 100 dollars so find a locksmith and you will be set good luck.
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That's not quite true. Omega R & D has a bypass module called the DB-PKF. It works on the vehicle's databus and doesn't require a key. It runs around $30. To use it, you would need 2 working keys to program it to your vehicle. Any local Omega dealer should be able to get you one. Or, you could order one online from my company. I don't list it on my site but it is available. I hope this helps.

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You can bypass the PATS with a spare key and a relay. Basic and secure. The relay will only activate when remote starter is engaged otherwise it is dorment.
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brianh 
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Thanks alot for the help guys.  This is the first transponder type antitheft system that I have had to bypass.  So you say you can get around it with one key and a relay.  How so?  Brian
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You need to wrap the key cylinder with a 22 gauge wire and also the head of the spare key ( or just the chip ) to introduce the resistor to the PATS module. Wire in the relay so that the ground out when running wire activates the relay and use the ignition wire for power only when the ignition is on so you don't have the relay on all the time.

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to add to what velocity said the wire you use to wrap around the ignition switch goes to pin 87 of the relay and the other end of that wire that wraps around the head of the key goes to pin 30 of the relay. the key does not have to be near the ignition switch it can be about 10 inches away from it. If you are worried about someone finding the key and using it to start your car then you can cut the key off and just use the head or take the transponder out of the key. Like i had said in my above post if you dont want wire to be wrapped around ignition switch you can accieve a cleaner install using a 555u from dei this will hold the key and have a antenna ring that goes around the key cylinder. Everything is built in to the unit no relays needed only 2 wire hookup and i think it is much more professional looking and performing.
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here is a pic of what velocity is talking about http://photo.msn.s8.com/MS8zLzAvMS8xMDMwLzE1NS8zMi9IMGxmVmJQaWtndFV3QllwWGMxM2xB/73a3702260db5087ddc0353620900f92       you may need to copy the adress and use internet explorer
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Alright I understand what you guys meant by wire and a key now.  I quess thats how the 555u works its just easier to install for some.  Does it matter how many wraps of wire around it?  I would think that  several wraps would be better than a couple to pick up the induced code.(sorta like a electro magnet?)  Thanks again for  everyones input.  Im glad I found this site, I know a good bit about this stuff but there is a first time for everything.  Thanks again

 BrianH

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Wrap around key about 8 - 10 times and the same for the cylinder to ensuer a solid signal going to the PATS system. If you already have a spare key with the correct code then all you need is a relay ( which in my mind is cheaper than buying the DEI  piece ). If you need two keys to program the DEI unit anyway there's no need to have the second one afterwards. If I were you just take the chip out of the key head and wrap the wire around the chip and then you still have the spare key as a door key.

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