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crazymodgsr 
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Posted: October 30, 2004 at 11:40 AM / IP Logged  
I have a '94 Integra GS-R. I have just nearly finished installing my stereo, and will install my Compustar 2WSS-AS alarm system in the near future. I've never done an alarm install before, but am fairly confident. Anyway, wondering how I go about wiring it up to bypass the clutch with the remote start. I really don't want to f*ck anything up, but I'd like to make use of the remote start feature. Also, there is also a cheapo Viper alarm currently installed. Is it going to be more of a pain in the ass taking this out and putting the new in its place, or should I just pay the $250+ and have it installed (did I mention I have no money for about 3 months, lol). And I also have the remote window rollup and sunroof close, which automatically will shut the sunroof and windows when I arm the vehicle. Thanks for the help
misterjimbo 
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just use relays to bypass the clutch. there is either one on two switches on the clutch. use the relays to simulate the clutch being pushed in. i would suggest getting a remote start that is designed for a manual transmition. for safety's sake. i have an aps 996a on my car, but i put 2.5 million dollars away in a seperate account in case my car takes off and kills some one. so again i say get a remote start that is designed for a manual transmition.
crazymodgsr 
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Posted: October 30, 2004 at 11:53 AM / IP Logged  
but if the car is in neutral and e-brake up, there is no way the car could just take off right? i have to have my car in neutral w/ e-brake up anyway because of my turbo timer (car has to cool down at idle for about a minute after i turn it off).
misterjimbo 
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oh okay... you should be okay.
crazymodgsr 
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does the kit come with this relay, or do I need to purchase one? do you think removing the old alarm will cause more of a hassle, or be better cause I can see how things are currently hooked up?
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The Compustar is manual safe. Just leave the jumper wire in the CPU uncut for manual transmissions. As far as the clutch bypass, there is one wire that requires a (-) trigger and on most Honda's it's a BLACK/ BLUE wire on the upper switch ( if you have cruise ) and just jumper this wire to the ground out when running wire ( or STATUS wire on the Compustar ). One more thing is you say you have a turbo on the car, the Compustar can do the turbo shut down for you as well. If you installed a MSD or Crane ignition system, you will most likely have problems trying to learn the tach for the Compustar. Just a warning for you now.

BTW: You won't need a relay for the clutch, just use the status wire straight to the (-) clutch wire.

Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
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Morden, Manitoba CANADA
misterjimbo 
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on my honda (03 si) there are two switches on my clutch. one that opens when the clutch is depressed slightly and another that closes when the clutch os fully engauged. without adding a relay to both my car would not start. However if i am correct most only have one switch, but just letting you know just in case.
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Hey you can use a relay to trigger the clutch if you want to keep the factory integrity of the clutch switch. There are two wires coming from the top of the clutch take the black /blue wire (not sure of color) put to terminal 30 of relay terminal 87 tap onto the other wire at clutch switch.Terminal  85 goes to your negative status output from RS. Terminal 86 goes to 12volt positive. This method will keep the factory integrity of the clutch switch IE meaning that u still have to depress the clutch like normal when starting with the key. But if your lazy and its your car and you just dont care. Then here is a mickey mouse way of doing it cut the two wires coming from the clutch switch. Then the two wires going back  to the car connect togethor using a snow cap and wah -law  instant clutch bypass now u never have to press on the clutch to start.

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Actually, if you just use the status wire (-) and wire straight to the BLACK/ BLUE wire, it will do the same thing. The clutch system on these vehicles are a (-) trigger and when using the status wire, the clutch is bypassed through out the remote start sequence until you press onto the brake wire and this releases the (-) current on the status wire and then the clutch is back to normal operating conidition.
Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
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Morden, Manitoba CANADA

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