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porteeab 
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Posted: November 27, 2004 at 11:17 AM / IP Logged  
Dyohn, any idea what that sub channel will put out at 2 or 4 ohm?
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Posted: November 27, 2004 at 11:39 AM / IP Logged  

Here's the specs on the Belle amps.  In my experience, they are under-rated by about 20%

16-MC600D

16-MC1300D

RMS Power 4ohm

55 x 4 / 100 x 1

75 x 4 / 300 x 1

RMS Power 2ohm

75 x 4 / 200 x 1

115 x 4 / 600 x 1

RMS Power 1ohm

N/A / 400 x 1

N/A / 1100 x 1

THD 2/4ohm

0.03% / .5%

0.03% / .5%

S/N Ratio

>92dB / >91dB

>92dB / >91dB

Variable Low-Pass Filter

50-250Hz

50-250Hz

Variable High-Pass Filter

50-250Hz

50-250Hz

Filter Slopes

18dB

18dB

Input Sensitivity

250mV-5V

250mV-5V

Input Impedance

22Kohms

22Kohms

Frequency Response +/- 1dB

10Hz-50KHz

10Hz-50KHz

Fuse Rating

30A x 3

30A x 6

Dimensions 6.5" x 2 " x

17.75"

22.5"

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Posted: November 28, 2004 at 1:16 AM / IP Logged  
I suppose I should offer this, no one else has.   You can get away with a 4 channel.   You will lose fader control from front to rear and it needs to be a 2 ohm stable 4 channel amp.. You would wire your internal speakers to channels providing a 2 ohm load on channels 1 and 2, then you channels 3 and 4 for a bridged sub output. I have alot of people wanting gold for a copper price.   So I normally end up selling them a volfenhag zx7170.   alot of people will make fun of these amps but they are very dependable and actually very clean for internal speakers.   I have quite a few if you would be interested
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Posted: November 28, 2004 at 1:31 AM / IP Logged  
[quote]You did look at the manual didn't you? I didn't bother to look up the others you mentioned, sorry, the links aren't working in Opera.[/quote]
honestly, no i didnt, when i was browsing for amps, i just went through a list of quality brandnames in my bookmarks, i thought PG was a quality name so i looked for a 5channel amp... i guess i shouldnt base my suggestions souly on a company, but more on how it preforms, but without experiance i can only suggest what i've learned to be good brands.
anyways, i agree with you, alot of 5channels, if not all the ones i posted are usually 50watts rms with a 200-300rms sub channel. i find 50watts to be acceptable for incar speakers, mine gets loud enough as it is, and thats with my lower bass included, i dont want to know how loud things will get with they are crossover at 250hz. so when i was referring to quality 5/6ch amps i guess i didnt understand everything that was required for one. the memphis belle (16-MC1300D) looks quite strong though.
i am curious though:
Fuse Rating 30A x 6
im assuming that is 6, 30amp fuses. can you explain why they would design the fuses like that and not 1 fuse for the entire system? and if you could elaborate on pros/cons of it, that would be extra nice ;-).
Muffinman 
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Posted: November 28, 2004 at 11:14 AM / IP Logged  

If you have the room and money Two amps. One 4 channel and a single channel Mono.

Check you alt output to see if it can handle the strain of two amps. A good 100+ amp is ok since you will not be driving the system full bore all the time.

Muffinman 
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Posted: November 28, 2004 at 11:21 AM / IP Logged  
DYohn wrote:

Here's the specs on the Belle amps.  In my experience, they are under-rated by about 20%

16-MC600D

16-MC1300D

RMS Power 4ohm

55 x 4 / 100 x 1

75 x 4 / 300 x 1

RMS Power 2ohm

75 x 4 / 200 x 1

115 x 4 / 600 x 1

RMS Power 1ohm

N/A / 400 x 1

N/A / 1100 x 1

THD 2/4ohm

0.03% / .5%

0.03% / .5%

S/N Ratio

>92dB / >91dB

>92dB / >91dB

Variable Low-Pass Filter

50-250Hz

50-250Hz

Variable High-Pass Filter

50-250Hz

50-250Hz

Filter Slopes

18dB

18dB

Input Sensitivity

250mV-5V

250mV-5V

Input Impedance

22Kohms

22Kohms

Frequency Response +/- 1dB

10Hz-50KHz

10Hz-50KHz

Fuse Rating

30A x 3

30A x 6

Dimensions 6.5" x 2 " x

17.75"

22.5"

It must be cause the fuse ratings don't add up 30A*3 for 300 watts @.5 THD

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