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misterZ 
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Posted: October 26, 2002 at 5:01 PM / IP Logged  

I will be installing an overhead console/LCD in the next few weeks. The unit is pretty large, 12.1 in. LCD and universal type overhead console. It's going in an 01' MPV minivan.

From searching these forums, it looks like I could either leave the head liner intact or cut the liner to fit the back plate. If I leave the liner intact, how would I route the wires? I've seen some articles where they used a fishing pole to snake the wires through to the rear of the van, sounds like a pain.

Any help would be appreciated.

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no what you do i have dont this plenty of times dont cut liner just cut out a peice of wood that all screws on unit will be able to get into , then if your car has a dome light in that spot that take out the dome light and fit the wood in there that wood is going to be what makes it not fall through the liner and it will hold it up. snake the wires donw one of the side of the car if you have a four door than that is easy take off all the panels and there will be an entrance way to the top of the lines however your make the hole snake the wires from the hole to the side of car and than run it down that beam and you will be able to run all wires to headunit etc(brain) whatever a lot easier. if you want go somewhere and buy like one or two huge pull tie, (wire tires) and you that as a sname unless you have a wire snake . either way it makes life eaiser. their you go anymore help email m e.
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Posted: October 26, 2002 at 9:22 PM / IP Logged  

What I have done in the past is also use wood, but I have discovered a lot better material that is easier to work with and is way more solid. Go to your local hardware store and get a small chunk of steel from the roofing department. They usually have various sizes and thicknesses for you to choose from. This is an awesome resource and is thin enough to slip between the liner and the roof and also does not require long screws.

Also, if you want something htat you can use as a wire running tool, go down to the local bike shop and buy 4 feet of cable housing ( the black stuff ) and it works like a charm ! Rigid... yet flexible at the same time.

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Posted: October 26, 2002 at 9:30 PM / IP Logged  
Thanks guys. I still don't quite get your idea about how the pieces go. To slip this piece above the liner still requires cutting the liner, no? Let me know. Thanks again.
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Posted: October 26, 2002 at 10:00 PM / IP Logged  

The basis of the installation is to have the back of the roofliner strong enough to hold the weight of the monitor and console. Without having a structural backing on the factory roof liner, the monitor will fall after time. If you install a piece of wood or steel behind the monitor where the screws attach to ( between the metal part of the roof and the inside of the roof liner ) it will grab the wood or steel and sandwich the roofliner. The only way that the monitor will fall now is if all the screws were to fall out or if the entire piece of wood or steel would come with the monitor ( not possible if the back plate is larger than the hole for the domelight ). Hope this helps.

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misterZ 
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Posted: October 27, 2002 at 10:22 AM / IP Logged  
Thanks again, I kinda thought I could just screw into te ceiling, like there's two layers that make up the ceiling so as not to go through the roof. With your guys idea, I would still have to take off the liner? I'm so new at this, sorry.
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Posted: October 27, 2002 at 11:23 AM / IP Logged  
You might not have to take the entire roofliner off, rather just pull back enough from the driver's door or passenger door to reach your hands in between the liner and the roof to position the steel above the monitor.
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misterZ 
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That makes sense. Thanks for the help. I can visualize it now.
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Posted: November 20, 2002 at 11:33 PM / IP Logged  
The MPV van should have a steel beam behind the roof head liner behind the driver/passenger seats. I have install the same set-up for a 96 MPV. It even had holes for mounting extra domes lights. You still have to poke a hole on the headliner for the wires to come through.
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