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iskidoo 
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Posted: January 30, 2005 at 7:56 AM / IP Logged  
You can try going through the troubleshooting steps on page 12 of the .pdf file below.
http://directechs.com/techtips/pdfs/resources/security/clifford_techtips/49000313.pdf Look for "The system seems to be draining the car's battery"
deocder 
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This mornings findings:
Sat down in car, put key in slot, normal key in slot sounds (beeb beeb ba beeb....), Key to accessory position, accessories come on, key to ignition, no problems, key to starter position, dunk...Starter tries to initiate.....power drops. Key back to accessory, no accessories, key back to initial position, no normal car sounds......cannot repeat. And this is how its been acting since the problems first began.
I took my volt meter out and probed the ignition harness at the key. Everything is switching properly based on the position of the key but the voltage is 1.5V. This measurement was taken after the above situation.
So even if I bypass the starter kill, the voltage is still only 1.5V.
And after checking for parasitic drain, 50 mA. Not enough to drain the battery....its something else...
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Is your Alternator outputting 14 volts when the engine is running?
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Okay, I went out and jumpstarted the car, everything started fine. As soon as I closed the door, the doors locked. The only thing I have is the remote which will not open the doors when I press the button. CRAP!
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Okay, nevermind the last post, I got in and turned off the instant lock feature (not sure why/how that was set). I tested the output from the alternator and get 19V. I tested the voltage across the battery and got 19V. I tested the ignition harness at the key cylinder and got 19V. I tested a 1.5V AA battery and got 1.8V. I turned the car off. I tested the battery and got 16V. I tested the ignition harness and got 16V. I tried to start the car.
Something is really wrong.
Everything seems to wark fine after jump-starting until the next time the starter is engaged. Then everything shuts off and 2V was measured at the ignition harness.
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You need to double check all the wiring that you put in at the ignition harness. Sounds like something is backwards and a relay is engaging and shorting your battery to ground or something. If your meter is reading 16V acrossed a 12v battery and 19V when the alternator should be putting out about 14V then you need to either recalibrate your meter or get a new one. Is it digital or analog?
Did you try hooking the Ignition and starter wires back up the way they were originally before wiring in the intellistart. It may suck to have to redo it but you can't leave it the way it is. Something in the wiring of the ignition kill or starter kill is backwards or your intellistart unit is defective.
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The meter is digital. I'm not sure if I can recalibrate it. I'll have to open it up and look. When I test a AA battery I get 1.8V which is not accurate.
I'll jump the ignition and starting wires after lunch.
Thank you very much for yor help!
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Posted: January 30, 2005 at 7:14 PM / IP Logged  
Well, the day is over....most of which was spent working on this car. I unplugged the ignition and starter harness on the main module as well as the intellestart. I then jumpered the ignition and starter wires. But still the problem persists...
After do more research, I have narrowed my search down to the starter relay of the car. I just cant seem to find it though. There must be something whong with this relay because the problem happenes when the starter circuit is initiated. All I have to do now is find the relay and test it out...
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The starter relay may be in the engine compartment with a bunch of large fuses and a few other relays in a plastic covered compartment. Not sure though.
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Posted: February 04, 2005 at 3:52 PM / IP Logged  
Well I figured it out...
Can you believe this, the connection between the negative terminal and the chassis was bad. Everything looked fine. I took my jumber cables and jumped the negative terminal to the engine block and it started right up. Amazing!
Time to do the "big 3"
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