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kingpin111 
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Posted: February 12, 2005 at 11:34 PM / IP Logged  

cool.

thanks a lot stevdart.

i guess i am ready to go on  with the build. 

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Posted: February 13, 2005 at 9:19 AM / IP Logged  

stevdart wrote:
The measurements are 2.5 x 10.37 x 13.31 = ?

I had a virtual reality thought later on this.  The port opening will extend to the outer face of the front, so the 1" front baffle will count for 1" of the 13.31" port length.  That means the measurements in the quote above should be tweaked to account for that, taking the 13.31 down to 12.31 length.  Very slight adjustment in overall volume but a critical adjustment in actual port volume.  Just be sure to measure the inside port size when you are building.  Good luck.

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Posted: February 13, 2005 at 11:21 AM / IP Logged  

point taken

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Posted: February 14, 2005 at 8:56 AM / IP Logged  
quick question, not to disrupt this, but when manipulating the port size, I thought it was only important to maintain the volume, I didn't think that you had to keep the depth tthe same and only chang the other dimensions. Is this incorrect, if I am right, he can compensate to make his port taller shallower and narrower, to allow for it to run the entire vertical length of the box, actins as both a port and a brace. just a suggestion
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Posted: February 14, 2005 at 11:55 AM / IP Logged  

Avolon, a couple of things:  "...but when manipulating the port size, I thought it was only important to maintain the volume..."  Depends on what you are doing.  In the case of this thread, the port was being changed from round to slotted.  If the length remains the same, the area of the circle only has to be calculated and a rectangle formed instead.  But in the case of changing port diameter, and increase also demands a longer port length.  Volume, then, is not maintained... it increases.  "manipulation" can be different things.

In this thread, the ports are aligned along the common wall where support is not needed.  The space across the front is not wide enough to allow a port closer to the driver.

And for bracing, the most critical brace is from front to back, centered (as close as possible) on the enclosure chamber.  Next critical place is center top to bottom.  A slotted port used in place of a brace would not give you the front-to-back support because of the slot opening on the inside.

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... and the reason it is not as simple as calculating a volume relationship is because when you construct a ported speaker enclosure, you are actually building a Helmholtz Resonator.  This produces sound exactly like you can by blowing across the top of a bottle.  The vent or port is the bottle opening and the enclosure behind it is the bottle.  Bandpass enclosures are specialized versions of the same thing.  If you are interested in the physics and the math behind the phenomenon, check here.  As you can see, the sound produced is dependent on MANY factors, the size of the opening being one.  This is why vented enclosures are far more difficlut to construct properly than are sealed one.
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so the old physics teacher trick about using helium or NO2 could be applied here too. Imagine a nitrous filled sealed enclosure, porbobly could get a little lower than one filled with air, pretty much impossible for a DIYer to make, but at least a cool thought
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