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cleanlude

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Posted: May 09, 2005 at 2:34 PM / IP Logged

Hey guys,

It's my first time, so be gentle 97 Prelude, Autopage -- posted image. . I want to self-install my Autopage RF-520LCD in my 1997 Honda Prelude SH. I've never done anything other than install amplifiers and subs in cars...

Most of the wires seem simple enough, I'm just wondering HOW do i make the connections to the existing wires? Do you use the little snap-on connectors that cut through the insulation and contact the lead... or what...

I do not understand at all how to wire the door locks. My alarm has a "6-pin door lock connector with a bunch of wires that I don't know where they connect to...

What kind of door lock setup does the Prelude use?

Sorry for being such a dumb***.. Dumb ***** need to learn too ;)

Jeff

OhioMike1101

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Posted: May 09, 2005 at 5:42 PM / IP Logged

At our shop we just strip the wire, make an eye, insert and trist. Then tape it off and put a zip tie on the wire. It keeps the tape on there and keeps the connection from falling out at all.

It is just as good of a connection as solder IMO

dare_ds69

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Posted: May 09, 2005 at 5:42 PM / IP Logged

12volts	white	+	ignition harness
Starter	BLACK/ white	+	ignition harness
Second Starter
Ignition	BLACK / YELLOW	+	ignition harness
Second Ignition
Third Ignition
Accessory	yellow	+	ignition harness
Second Accessory
Keysense
Power Lock	BLACK/ white	-
Notes: located in the passengers kick at the multiplex control unit in a blue 14 pin connector. May also be in a gray 2 pin connector taped to another harness with blue tape above the driver kick panel.
Power Unlock	blue/orange	-
Notes: located in the passengers kick at the multiplex control unit in a blue 14 pin connector. May also be in a gray 2 pin connector taped to another harness with blue tape above the driver kick panel.
Lock Motor	WHITE/ red		bottom of fuse box
Unlock Motor	lt.GREEN/ red		bottom of fuse box
Parking Lights+	RED / black
Notes: located in a white plug just behind the cruise control switch.
Parking Lights-
Hazards
Turn Signal(L)
Turn Signal(R)
Reverse Light
Door Trigger	WHITE/ black	-	bottom of fuse box
Dome Supervision	comes on with unlock
Trunk/Hatch Pin	orange	-
Notes: located in a white plug just behind the cruise control switch.
Hood Pin
Trunk/Hatch Release
Power Sliding Door
Factory Alarm Arm
Factory Alarm Disarm
Disarm No Unlock	blue	-	in drivers door
Tachometer	blue		cluster or test connector
Notes: test connector is located to the front of the right strut tower.
Wait to start
Brake Wire	WHITE/ black	+	at brake switch
Parking Brake
Horn Trigger	blu/rd or lt grn/blu	-	steering column
Memory Seat 1
Memory Seat 2
Memory Seat 3

Interface Module:	Category:	Required: Yes	Type: Transponder
Part #: 555D, 556U, or 555U

You have to understand how the power locks works at the brain, it just need negative to make it work, read careful the instructions and you will find out the answer.

how own your mind, control your life.

MECP certified. always use a DMM

OhioMike1101

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Posted: May 09, 2005 at 5:43 PM / IP Logged

The 520 comes with built in relays for the door locks also. You will need to understand how relays work.

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Posted: May 09, 2005 at 7:02 PM / IP Logged

The Prelude uses a (-) type system for the door locks so no relays are necessary ( look at wiring datasheet from above ). Personally, I would solder and tape connections as this is solid and will reduce any possibility of potential problems that can arise from loose connections and what not. Best to eliminate potential problems before they happen and this would definitely be one of them if solder is not used.

Jeff

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OhioMike1101

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Posted: May 09, 2005 at 8:44 PM / IP Logged

But it has built in relays on that alarm.

He will have to put 87 to (-) on both the lock and unlock. The DL section has an 87, 87a, and 30 for both lock and unlock so u can do + - and 5 wire.

And it may not be the best form of wiring (strip, eye, and twist), but it is more than acceptable.

profuse007

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Posted: May 10, 2005 at 12:50 AM / IP Logged

if that unit has what mike mentioned, then theres internal relay built in.

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cleanlude

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Posted: May 10, 2005 at 9:43 AM / IP Logged

Ok, thanks for info... I'll try my best... Hopefully I won't set fire to my car... :)

So the DL is a 3-wire negative right? If so, I have a diagram on how to wire it to my alarm in my installation manual...

Also, can I skip using the alarm's starter immobilizer and just use the built-in Honda one... (To avoid buying a 791 bypass module, since the Honda one will do the trick for me)...

Thanks a lot for the replies, if I have other questions I won't be shy...

And when I make a connection, do I need to follow the wire to where it ends, or can I cut into it and solder the 3 ends together or what...

Thanks

Velocity Motors

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Posted: May 10, 2005 at 10:00 AM / IP Logged

OhioMike1101 wrote:

But it has built in relays on that alarm.

He will have to put 87 to (-) on both the lock and unlock. The DL section has an 87, 87a, and 30 for both lock and unlock so u can do + - and 5 wire.

And it may not be the best form of wiring (strip, eye, and twist), but it is more than acceptable.

When I say that no relays are necessary for this vehicle, I'm referring to external relays. The internal relay system of the Autopage requires that you still ground a wire and hook up the other two door lock wires to the car. As far as the wire hook up methods it will be up to the installer what he / she will do, but the method that you do is not acceptable at my shop. Too much temperature variations here in Manitoba as well as crappy roads would loosen off the connections in no time. That's why I suggested solder. Not trying to start anything with you OhioMike1101.

Jeff

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Morden, Manitoba CANADA

JiggaFan

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Posted: May 10, 2005 at 10:19 AM / IP Logged

solder vs. strip-poke-tape

tach vs. tachless

yadda, yadda, yadda.

and while i'm at it, there are other alarms besides DEI...when OhioMilke said "built-in relays", there shouldn't have been any corrections.

other alarms that use built-in relays:

ASTRA7E7

and the Code-Alarm pieces HH Gregg were using for $129 RS

there are other car security companies besides DEI.

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