Transponder bypass

Has anyone actually bypassed a PATS using a relay and wrapping a wire aroung the transponder and around the key cylinder, and found it as easy and reliable as the bypass kits?  I have never tried it this way since the bypass kit is so easy to install, but I have considered trying the relay method for those customers who are so cheap they dont  want to spend the additional money. If I think about it though, the extra labor and headache would cost more than the money they would save.

I do this with all the newer systems ( eg. Infinity G35's, new Ford's , most imports ) because they all are going to those new Immobilizer's that change the code of the key everytime the driver takes the key out of the key cylinder. I have done this for the past couple of years where there is no available keyless bypass for the vehicle. What you may want to do is use a scroll saw to cut the key portion off of the key and give this back to the customer to assure them that even if the car is broken into and the thief finds the bypass relay, they can not steal the car because the key portion is gone.

It's funny that you say that it take more time to do it with the relay, I find it takes more time to attach 6 or 7 wires for some bypass kits than it does to attach the 4 on this relay. My 2 c's

I have done many of them but I make them up a few at a time before hand. make the loop a 3 turn and keep the transponder between 8-10 inches from the key cyl. also dont run the wire next to any metal. be shore to glue/silicone the capsule in the ten turn wire wrap- IT MUST NOT MOVE. slide it to both extreems then glue it at the mid point. also keep the made loop away from the metel of the key cylinder, glue that to then tape it! the lerning curve, IMHO is worth it but, I charge them for a module anyway! time is money. I started making these things in 87 when the price of the mod was double what it is now- it made sence back then. now the module price isnt such a turn off to the customer. If hes that cheep kick him out! LOL

Mark

I think I will stick to my $15 bypass module that I only have to hook up 2 wires, +12v and a ground that is triggered by the starter unit during remote start.  All I have to do is stick the key inside a little box and place the prewired coil around the key cylinder and I'm done. 

Jeff, I am not sure which bypass kit you are referring to that requires 6 or 7 wires.  Is there a keyless bypass module that you use?  Also, can you tell me more information on the new type of immobilizers you referred to that change the code every time the key is removed.  How does that work, I mean if the code changes, then the next time the key was inserted the ignition would require that new code, but what if you inserted the other key, wouldn't it be different? I know my confusion is due to my lack of depth of knowlegde about these type of immobilizers, so bear with me.

Thanks