wiring viper 791xv relay to always off

Just like the title says.  I would like to know how can i do that?  I suspect wiring another relay?  I just find it kind of lame that if a thieve disconnect the brain my car will start right up.  I wire my last 791 as per instruction and i find their method weak.

english man english......if u are worried about someone disconencting batt......get a back up batt. pack....they work nice......Where theres is a wire there's a way.

You could wire a standalone starter kill relay separate from the viper's. All you need is the relay and a toggle switch. Hook it up as follows: 87a, 86 - key side of cut starter wire 30 - starter side of wire 87 - not used 85 - one side of the toggle switch(the other side of the switch goes to ground). Hide the toggle switch somewhere away from the alarm brain and you're golden.C Renner's Auto Electronix

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do it a fuel cut off.how own your mind, control your life.

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Or... use the ground when armed off either the brain, or the satellite harness.... wire up a normally open, not so failsafe relay for your starter kill. Gus PS: The main thing is to put the brain in such an akward place that unplugging it or even finding it is a very aggrivating experience.Wherever I go, that is where I end up......

redpeppers wrote: english man english......if u are worried about someone disconencting batt......get a back up batt. pack....they work nice......

it seems like everyone else understood what i meant.  where in my  sentence did i mention batt?  seems like MY english is fine.

so basically i got to wire another kill switch/relay after the satilite relay?  Man I like the clifford g4 setup better where there relay is normally open.  Also I am going to hide the brain real well.  I was thinking of using my window up button as my "hidden" switch.

The 791xv, and every other Viper I've ever seen, are not capable of doing normally open starter kills. You can interrupt the starter wire with a second, toggle-switched relay if you like. I second the other opinions about why you shouldn't do a fuel cut-off...an intact starter kill will keep the car off just as well as a fuel cut-off without the running hazard.C Renner's Auto Electronix

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chriswallace187 wrote: The 791xv, and every other Viper I've ever seen, are not capable of doing normally open starter kills.

Uh, the Viper 5000 can.

chriswallace187 wrote: The 791xv, and every other Viper I've ever seen, are not capable of doing normally open starter kills. You can interrupt the starter wire with a second, toggle-switched relay if you like. I second the other opinions about why you shouldn't do a fuel cut-off...an intact starter kill will keep the car off just as well as a fuel cut-off without the running hazard.

My statement still stands; I've never worked with a 5000. That's pretty cool that they are offering that now. The 791 has the starter kill integrated with the miniature relay satellite.C Renner's Auto Electronix

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