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Posted: December†01, 2005 at 4:57 PM / IP Logged  
Just curious if anyone here is colorblind and how you guys deal with finding the right wires in big bundles like vws and things.  I am and the guys I've taught get a kick when I grab a wire to test and they tell me "uh dude that's not the right color."
Cause I'm So white and nerdy...
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Posted: December†01, 2005 at 8:18 PM / IP Logged  
Whoa that seems like a challenge. I commend you for stepping up to that challenge. But to answer your question, I guess have an installer assistant when doing something like this.
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Silver - Posts: 520
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Posted: December†01, 2005 at 8:35 PM / IP Logged  
I have exactly the same problem; I'm surprised I don't hear of this more since colorblindness is present in almost half of all males, and the vast majority of this industry is male. I hate getting under a dash and finding a RED / brown wire next to a RED / green wire next to a BROWN / green wire and not being able to tell them apart. I just get a second opinion and block out the laughs and jokes when they try to point out a purple wire and tell me it's red.
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Posted: December†01, 2005 at 9:59 PM / IP Logged  
I am also a first class certified installer for bestbuy that is colorblind.  There is a bit of a disadvantage when trying to find a light green door trigger wire in a kia when every wire in the kick panel is either gray, green, or some other similiar color.  I use to ask for a second opinion but that usually ends with, " what color is my shirt?". So I now just keep testing wires until I do find the right one. 
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Posted: December†02, 2005 at 9:58 AM / IP Logged  
I tip my hat to you as well. One thing for sure is that you are seldom wrong because you would have tested out your wires first. I know itís difficult, but personally I would not know the extend of your difficulties until I actually walked around in your shoe for one day.
I am seldom wrong also when it comes to the details of the wiring in a vehicle. I am not colour blind, but I try to teach the guys that I work with to approach their work that way. Half the time itís a lot easier say than done. Pretty much at times itís like preaching the practice to the converted. As for tips in grabbing the right wire when you cannot differentiate the colour. I would say having lots good test equipment would certainly be the key. A good wiring diagram with clear up close picture does help. A power test light that has polarity light bulb in three different spot that will allow you to send a Negative or a Positive current at the switch. And last but not least, a good piercing probe with your digital multimeter will certainly do the job.
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Posted: December†03, 2005 at 8:22 PM / IP Logged  
I recently had an installer work with me that was color blind. Every once in a while he would ask me to check a color for him. He said he went more by position and closeness to the color, then metered it. Never had any problems....
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Posted: December†03, 2005 at 10:39 PM / IP Logged  
I have the same problem, but find that if I shine a bright light on it, it helps some, not 100%.
Can always make for some intresting results when you get done if you didn't get the right wire.
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Posted: December†04, 2005 at 8:49 AM / IP Logged  
Color is just a reference, or at least should be.  You should always verify every wire before making a connection to it.  The guy who hired me for my first install position was color blind.  When in doubt, or if he was in a hurry, he would ask someone for help, otherwise he probed away and never had any problems.
Kevin Pierson
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Posted: December†09, 2005 at 4:01 PM / IP Logged  
I agree, no matter what color I always test to make sure. Way back, I was installing a cd player in a friends truck, and I asked him to verify which wire was ground and he told me which one. It turned out to be the brown illumination wire & fried the deck eventually. Always double check!
Copper - Posts: 47
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Posted: January†02, 2006 at 11:41 PM / IP Logged  

i have the opposite problem, im kinda tone deaf. the higher the pitch the noise is, the less i hear it. if i install the radio, the person i installed it for cringes when they hear the treble.

same effect when someone gets in my truck or boat... its always the same thing. the treble kills them. but hey, i need it to sound good to ME

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