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ronmegga 
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This is my first ever post in this forum , so any ideas would be greatly appreciated. I have a 1990 Mustang GT which I have recently restored and had painted. I already have an audio system in it, but I am looking to make it more appealing to the eye. Here is the specs of the stereo. I have 4 JL10w0 subs running off of a Soundstream Class A 5.0 at 1 OHM mono. I have a Phoenix Gold X200.4 on the way for the mids and highs. I have Boston Acounstic Pro 6.5 LF separates and Infinity Kappa 5X7 coaxials in the back. Right now I have the 4 10s in a basic box in the back running straight across from left to right facing up. They are 2 to a separation(2 sharing each chamber) but I am looking to do a FG box in the wheel well somehow. They sound pretty good, but with the way they are installed the box almost hits the hatch when I close it. I think if I can find a way to build into the wheel well, I can get a more full sound and less rattling of the hatch. I guess the ideas I am looking to get are...A) How to arrange the subs for best sound...How to set them up, which way to face them etc. B) What would be the thickness requirements in the FG enclosure with the pressure of 4 10s in mind. C) Basically any input possible, considering I have never built a FG box or anything FG for that matter. I will be posting pics of how the system looks now , how the car looks now and buildup pictures along the way, for anyone who is interested. Thank you in advance, Ron
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ronmegga 
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The car is a 1990 Mustang GT Hatchback.

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its also going to depend slightly on what is most important to you, overall look, sound quality, space?  Depending on what you are willing to sacrifice for the others there are probably a few interesting ways to fit all four of those in there.
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Well as far as space is concerned, I can use the entire hatch area for the system, keeping in mind that I will probably leave an area either on the enclosure or near it for the amps and a stiff cap or 2. Regardless of that, I would just like to try and keep it a bit lower than the hatch, as it is now, the subs almost hit the hatch when it is closed. I would definitely sacrafice space for sound quality, and try to make it look as good as I could, but keeping more about the sound in mind. I will post some pics of how it looks now.
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ronmegga wrote:
...A) How to arrange the subs for best sound...How to set them up, which way to face them etc. B) What would be the thickness requirements in the FG enclosure with the pressure of 4 10s in mind. C) Basically any input possible, considering I have never built a FG box or anything FG for that matter. I will be posting pics of how the system looks now , how the car looks now and buildup pictures along the way, for anyone who is interested. Thank you in advance, Ron
A) We recommend that you keep each of the subs in their own boxes. That will minimize and phasing and distortions of the speakers. The best placement for the speakers is to keep them towards the front of the trunk space as possible and fire them towards the back of the car. This will also reduce the amount of phasing.

B) For F/G, make sure it is at least, 3/4" thick. They are not that powerful, but they have a lot (relative) of excursion on them. and give it about 0.80 cu ft. of space inside each box.

C) Considering that this is your first F/G project, D (our lead guy) recommends that you do not use the F/G for the boxes themselves right now. He came up with a way to use all the subs and create space for you as well. You are going to build 2 boxes and combine them together. He is making a drawing right now for you and we'll post it up asap. Then use the fiberglass to create a look that you may like. The boxes he is recommending are L shaped sealed boxes that will give you good, tight response that still has some boom on it. Also you will have the ability to use the rest of your trunk area for presentation of the rest of your gear. How you skin it (F/G or fabric/vinyl) is up to you. For the boxes, his idea calls for 3/4" MDF. Plans to follow.

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Your reply is much appreciated, I am looking forward to seeing the plans.
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[IMG]https://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/DonsArtNGames/img001a.jpg[/IMG]Sorry for the long wait. This enclosure is 41.75 inches wide. 18 inches tall and 15 inches deep at it's bottom (measure before continuing; We could not find our '90 GT measurements and manual). It is setup as a type 1 sealed enclosure to give better, smoother bass response. This will also help reduce the size and maintain simplicity. The material this is designed for is 3/4 inch MDF. Sorry that the plan is not to scale. (He almost forgot about it and had to be reminded) Now to the details of it.

Across the top of the image are 6 parts for the setup. You will need to make 4 of each of those boards. The middle left image (marked G) will have 5 of them made. The measurements are in inches. The middle picture is how the top boards will be assembled. The tabs show where the edge and the face of the boards will meet and made flush. The letters show you which board is which. That one is drawn to scale. All the edges that meet are the 9.5 inch edges (for those who have not figured it out >.< ) The G panels will be dividers and ends for the box. Panel B is where you will be cutting your mounting hold for the speaker. It is exactly 9.125 (1/8) inches around. Although the plans show the cutout to be in the center of the panel, the hole can be shifted up about an inch. doesn't sound like much, but that will give you an extra inch to round out the joint of this "L" shaped box using F/G. With the speaker mounted, there will be about 1 to 1.5" from the back of the speaker to the inside back wall of the box.

Variation : Don't think we didn't forget about your wanting to build with fiberglass. A really cool variant that was created for this will let you use fiberglass. Your base for this idea will use jersey (knit type preferably; the stretchy stuff). Get a hold of 5 wooden cones. They should not be more than a couple of inches high. This should be easy enough for you to come by at craft stores. If not, get taller cones and cut them to length. If you have a rourter available, use a 1/4" roundoff bit around the top, face sides, front top edge, and speaker hole. Round off the tops of the cones so they cannot poke through the jersey if they are sharp (or to whatever roundness you like) and glue them to the face of the box along the G panel's edge (at the top pointy part pointing the same direction as the bottom fo the "L") Next make 4 rings that are the same outer diameter of the speaker ring of the subs out of 3/4" MDF. The rings should be about 1.5 inches wide. use the 1/4 inch router on the outer edges of the rings. Cover the rings with Green automotive tape (preferred) or blue painters tape. Now for the trick part. Stretch and glue the Jersey around the front of the enclosure. Using C-Clamps,  clamp the rings in place where your speakers will be. Adjust the jersey to ensure that it is even and looks nice. At this point, it should look like that the speakers are pulling the F/G in. The bottom half of the "L" is a good base to build a display panel/area for the rest of the equipment. For the F/G part you are going to start at the rings and build up from there. Unclamp your first ring and apply your resin to the Jersey where the ring covers. Then re-clamp your ring into place while the resin is still soft. Repeat for the rest of the rings. While the speaker mount areas are drying, go ahead and F/G the rest of the jersey. Build it up with F/G mat to about 3 layers (or about 1/4") thick. Once all that has cured, prime, sand and shoot it from there.

If the picture is too small, here is a link to a big version of it:  https://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/DonsArtNGames/img001.jpg

I hope this works out well for you and I can't wait to see the results.

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PS any questions?

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Just don't do what the other guy did.  Yeek... Fg Enclosure For Mustang Ideas - Last Post -- posted image.

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Hehe sorry about that. >.< here is the small image again.

Fg Enclosure For Mustang Ideas - Last Post -- posted image.

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