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jammybstard 
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I've recently started beefing up my cars stereo, subs, new speakers etc.
I used to just have a sony head and some cheap 2 ways from maplin (I say cheap, they were a rip in hindsight).
I listen to music about an hour each way on the way to and from work, 5 days a week. I used to find that my head started to ache by the end of a trip.
Since i put the sub in the car, I haven't had this problem.
I assumed it would make it worse and i would have to be carefull.
Could it be that a system with a wider frequency range is either better (Less worse) for your hearing than a basic car stereo thats been cranked up?
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here is an idea, DONT PLAY THE MUSIC SO LOUD AND UR HEAD WONT HURT

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The frequencies that cause hearing loss is in the upper 8,000 Hz + range. Normal speech is in the 500 Hz-4000 Hz range. If your listening to music with a lot of high range frequencies and for a prolonged period of time, you will experience a ringing effect which means that your ears are in the beginning stages of hearing loss. Prolonged exposure will definitely give you hearing loss. Do yourself a favor and turnit down or use more sound deadening material in the car to reduce outside noises.
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jammybstard 
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I didnt know it waas the high frequencies that got you, assumend it would be the more powerfull lows.
I dont get the ringing since i put the sub in.
Do you think perhaps i was cranking up the old system trying to get mor Bass, which in effect was cranking up the highs f's at the same time, causing the ringing! now i've got the sub i dont nead to listen so loud so i'm keeping the vol down!
That would make sense now
Do you ever get in the car in the morning and turn the keys and the Stereo comes on at the same vol you had it on the night before and it makes you hit the roof. I was always doing that.
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jammybstard wrote:
Could it be that a system with a wider frequency range is either better (Less worse) for your hearing than a basic car stereo thats been cranked up?

To compensate for the lack of lows you were probably cranking your mids and highs.  You were probably clipping whatever amplifier you have and hitting some awful distorted peaks.  This would give anyone a headache. 

Now that you have some bass filling out the frequency spectrum, you're probably not playing the highs as loud, not clipping the highs as much, and your head doesn't hurt as much.

Pick up a rat shack SPL meter if you're really concerned about your hearing.  Try not to listen at 90db+ for longer than an hour. 

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jammybstard 
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So a better quality system at the same SPL as a Basic system does less damage to the ears!
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Velocity Motors has been in this field for a long time and I'm just a rookie, but I haven't heard that it was the high freqs that do the damage.  My impression from what I've read is that it is pure SPL, whatever freqs that sound pressure contains.  They could be lows or highs or pink noise or a bomb blast.  The sound pressure damages the hairs that line the ear canal and cause them to be bent, like an old crippled man.  They just don't get upright again.  Sound waves that hit those hairs become crippled, too, and the difference in sound becomes apparent when listening to high frequencies, like the 'sss' sound when a word is spoken in plural.  The 'sss' is hard to hear.

About 10 years ago I was in this local nightclub, standing close to one of the bands rear speaker setups.  The band was one of my wife's and my favorite bands, but there would come a time in the set when the three lady vocalists would get together and belt out some Pointer Sisters kinda stuff together...and I was standing at the wrong place.  That shrieking sound went right through my head.  Soon after that, everything and everyone started sounding like The Chipmunks.

Things cleared up the next day and I thought I was hearing normally again.  A day or two later, I was driving up the highway, in silence, enjoying the sounds of the summer crickets and cicadas.  Ah, the sounds of summer, I thought. 

Then It suddenly occurred to me that it was early March and my windows were all the way up.  I had ringing in my ears.  The ringing is still there today and there's nothing I can do about it.  And it sounds remarkably like summer crickets and cicadas with some electronic noise mixed in.  And oh,  it's in stereo!

I know it was high freqs from those girl singers, but I also know it was high decibels because of where I was standing.  What I don't know is which one of the two factors caused the partial hearing loss in my right ear.  I just know it sucks.  You just have to adapt.  But realize it can happen at any time...which should be a warning to be aware at all times.

Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.
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What....... Say that again huh.
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That really sucks man! Its too bad that someone can't come out with something better than hearing aids for hearing loss problems! They can do some extremely high-tech scientific stuff in this day and age, but when you go deaf or blind then your just screwed! That blows big time!!!
jammybstard 
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Thats a real Bastard!
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