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Posted: March 20, 2006 at 6:47 PM / IP Logged  

Regardless of what type of subwoofer you get, with them setup improperly, you will have problems with any brand....

Listen to DYohn. He knows more than you could possibly fathom.

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Posted: March 21, 2006 at 8:57 AM / IP Logged  

well i mean under 600 a piece.....im not about to doubt what anyone knows on this site thats why im here asking for help....

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DYohn i checked both inputs to each amp and they are fine and i know that the subs could be pushed harder on the gain part because the gain is about half way up but not over half....is there anything else that you can think of?
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Posted: March 21, 2006 at 9:47 AM / IP Logged  

the_one369 wrote:
DYohn i checked both inputs to each amp and they are fine and i know that the subs could be pushed harder on the gain part because the gain is about half way up but not over half....is there anything else that you can think of?

The position of the gain control means nothing.  How did you check the "input to each amp" to know it is "fine"?  Did you set the amp gain using tones or music?  Did you use a meter or set it by ear?  Did you record the position of the volume control on your head unit when you set the gain and have you ever turned it up past that?

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i started from the headunit and checked the RCAs and followed them to my 2 amps for any cuts or exposed wires and made sure that they were connected properly....i set my cd player at the maxium that I listin to it at and i use a tone cd and did it my ear i know its not perfect but because i don't have a meter it'll have to do and i haven't turned it up past that level because my intenal speakers start to distort...i use to have 4 alpine type S subs in my car using the same 2 amps and i never blew one and i had those back in 2003 and just got rid of them....is there anything else that you can think of that i should look at or check out??
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Something is definately not right in your setup, or your fingers on the volume control.  I have ran 2000 watts rms through a type-r 12 in a ported box for a few months, gain was set with a DMM, never had a problem.  Something is amiss when you blow a sub when pushing its rms rating, aka clipping.  You may believe you set your amp up properly, but you can't go by ear when setting the gain, you cannot hear when a sub is clipping until you start bottoming it out which is beyond clipping. Do some reasearch on how to set you gain with a digital multi meter and i bet your problem will go away.
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Posted: March 21, 2006 at 10:33 AM / IP Logged  

Here's what I'd do: take the car to a good local car audio shop.  Pay them for a couple hours labor to test your amps and make sure they are working OK, and to meter the outputs and reset your gain if the amps are OK.  It is possible the amps are clipping due to them being bad or that they outputs are simply failing due to age and use.  It is also possible your subs are defective (were they purchased from an authorized dealer?  If so, go there and to have the amps and speakers checked.)  I think you did what you could do, but it may not be sufficient in this case.  Get some hands-on help, it''l be worth the money unless you like to keep blowing speakers.  Then, if the amps are toasted, you are right there at the shop and can look at new ones!  blowing my subs - Page 3 -- posted image.

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Posted: March 21, 2006 at 10:43 AM / IP Logged  

well thanks again for the advice guys i was also wondering where i can pick a meter so i can learn how to tune them so i don't have to go to a shop and thanks again

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Posted: March 21, 2006 at 1:15 PM / IP Logged  

The best "meter" to use to set gains is an Osciloscope.  Here's one of the least expensive one's I've seen: http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=320-290

However there are ways of doing it with just a standard multimeter.  It won't be as accurate, but it will be much cheaper.

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