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ryan-neil 
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Posted: May 20, 2006 at 5:47 PM / IP Logged  

Hi All,

Im from Ireland and have found the site very useful over the last while, Car alarms aren't installed to the same quality and an alarm install could cost easly a 1000euro for a high end alarm if not more,

My last alarm for example an Gemel (?) has been draining my battery ever since, so after install alarms for friends and family for the last year im am replacing my own,

My Question is this, DEI Viper 791vx or the Compustar 2WSS-AS

I love the Range of the Compustar but the DEI seems to have better addons such as the Radar Module ETC.

These "Plug and Play"modules are the main appeal of the DEI.

I am also well aware of the Warrenty issues but there are not Registered dealers for either in Ireland so its not relivant for myself,

Any advise would me much appreciated...

Thanks

 

 

Twelvoltz 
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Posted: May 20, 2006 at 8:41 PM / IP Logged  
My preference is DEI, others will swear by the Compustar products. Keep in mind that most of the DEI accessories that you would want to add can be added to any manufacturer's system. If you want to add the Radar module made by DEI(508d?), you can use it with a Compustar system.
Hope this helps.
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Posted: May 21, 2006 at 12:56 AM / IP Logged  

There is NO comparison to DEI and Compustar........come on..........

DEI thinks they own the world............pretty soon they will $ $ $ $ money talks.DEI vs Compustar -- posted image.

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Posted: May 21, 2006 at 2:56 AM / IP Logged  
Something is telling me that DEI is making a play for Compustar and all of their lines.......
Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.
flatland2d 
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Posted: May 21, 2006 at 4:38 AM / IP Logged  
How does real world range compare between the two?  I'm trying to decide on an alarm and have been seriously considering the Viper 5000 but what good is a paging alarm if you don't get range.  Open to suggestions here.
ryan-neil 
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Posted: May 21, 2006 at 5:14 AM / IP Logged  

The Compustar kills the DEI on range before you get into the entire real world argument, the DEI is 1/4 mile  (400m) and the computstar is on paper 1.25miles (2KM), for me this is the real appeal of the Computar....

There seem to be no side by side feature set comparison available, i may look into drawng one up and posting it here to help people decide..

ryan-neil 
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Posted: May 21, 2006 at 6:16 AM / IP Logged  

From reading the Wiring manual for the Viper and there site info this is the comparison i could come up with based on the features listed for the Compustar, please update if you know a unknown feature is there on the Viper or there is a Viper specific feature not present on the Compustar left out, Right now i am leaning towards the computstar if i can use the DEI backup battery and Siren with it

Features    Compustar DEI 791xv     

Alarm     Yes  Yes
Starter     Yes  Yes
Keyless Entry     Yes   Yes
Trunk Release Output (-)  Yes  Yes
Two Aux Outputs    Yes   Yes (4 Outputs)
  
Starter Kill Output (-)
w/prewired relay   Yes   Yes (relay?)
Anti-Grind     Yes   Yes
  
2nd Ignition Output (+)   Yes   Yes
  
Selectable 2nd Ign/Acc/Starter Output (+)x   Unknown
2nd Ignition Output (-)   Yes   Yes
  
True Status Output (-)   Yes   Unknown
  
2nd Accessory Output (-)  Yes   Yes
  
2nd Starter Output (-)   Yes   Unknown
  
Parking Light Output (+)  Yes  Yes
  
Parking Light Output (-)   Yes  Yes
  
Remote Start Manual Transmission  Yes  Yes (Workaround)
E-brake Input (-)    Yes   Yes
Remote Start Diesel Engine Capable Yes  Yes
Glow Plug Input (+ / -)   Yes  Yes
Diesel Delay Mode   Yes   Yes
Dual Stage Shock Sensor   Yes   Yes
Extra Sensor Input (-)   Yes   Yes
Door Sensor Input (+ / -)   Yes  Yes
Trunk Sensor Input (-)   Yes   Yes
Siren Output (+)   Yes   Yes
Horn Output (-)    Yes   Unknown
Tach/Alternator Engine Sensing  Yes  Yes (Tach)
Remote Paging Sensor    Yes   Unknown
Cold Start Sensor Input   Yes  Unknown
Timer Start     Yes  Unknown
Factory Rearm/Disarm outputs (-) Yes  Yes
Dome Light Supervision Output (-) Yes   Yes
Dome Light Factory Rearm   Yes   Yes
Blue LED     Yes   Unknown
Unlock before Lock after starting  Yes   Unknown
Second Pulse Unlock    Yes   Yes
Driver's Priority Unlock (-)  Yes   Unknown
Turbo Mode (If ‘timer)   Yes  Yes
Passive Arming/Locking   Yes   Yes 
Ignition Controlled Doorlock   Yes   Unknown

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Personal preference would be to the COmpustar. I've installed DEI stuff before and they are well made, but I'm not a fan of the relay harnesses they use.
Jeff
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Ravendarat 
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The only feature listed above that the 791 doesnt have is the temp sensor, everything else it has. As well it has tach and volltage sensing. If I was looking at a DEI product I would wait until the SST version comes out as it should hit the market very soon. It will have a mile on range on it and is suposed to have a more stable reange than the compustar
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ryan-neil 
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Posted: May 21, 2006 at 10:42 AM / IP Logged  

Hey Ravendarat,

Will that be an upgraded model of the current 791 or a new series altogether, do you knwo where it will be placed in relation to the 791, will this be within the next 3 months, also so you know if the 791 has the EST2 capability.

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