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soultinter 
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Does anyone have any experience w these ? do they help any ? I was thinking of using them for my 6.5's in my front doors and the 6x9's in the rear to make them sound better. Any advice ?
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I use them for my front speakers and love them. I had to customize them so the window would not hit them. i had to cut them down the middle and fit one piece inside the other. I then did a resin/bondo mix and coated cothe the inside and outside of the baffle. I also use baffles for my 6" subs mounted in my rear doors with polyfill in them. Nice way for an easy box.
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Can't these actually become a problem for newer door speakers since newer component speakers are designed for more of an open space than what the baffle provides?
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Just about any sealed enclosure is better than none. It will make a notable difference in the mids.

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Flakman wrote:

Just about any sealed enclosure is better than none. It will make a notable difference in the mids.

I thought most modern component sets are designed in a "free air", "infinite baffle" way? If that's the case, wouldn't adding a baffle give worse results since the speakers aren't designed for a sealed inclosure?
I know I read this somewhere at some point because I was considering baffling my JL components in my old car and a guy on a forum was complaining that his sounded like crap. Then someone suggested he remove his baffle and he commented on how it was a night and day difference when he took the baffle off.
Flakman 
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A baffle is NOT an enclosure. Even Killer Sonata FG'ed his baffles, then they became an enclosure. If your speakers are in the doors, there is even more need to have an enclosure. All of the energy that is coming from your speakers will be used up in vibrating your doors and door panels instead of producing sound for the listening area. Even if, for some reason, your mids were made for IB, you have to make sure that the rear of the driver is completely sealed from the passenger compartment. Something has to be done somewhere. Foam baffles are not the answer IMO. You will have to seal or enclose your speakers...the best (and easiest IMO) is to create a sealed enclosure in the door.

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Flakman wrote:

A baffle is NOT an enclosure. Even Killer Sonata FG'ed his baffles, then they became an enclosure. If your speakers are in the doors, there is even more need to have an enclosure. All of the energy that is coming from your speakers will be used up in vibrating your doors and door panels instead of producing sound for the listening area. Even if, for some reason, your mids were made for IB, you have to make sure that the rear of the driver is completely sealed from the passenger compartment. Something has to be done somewhere. Foam baffles are not the answer IMO. You will have to seal or enclose your speakers...the best (and easiest IMO) is to create a sealed enclosure in the door.

So, a baffle doesn't enclose the rear of the speaker once it's installed in the door?
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No...it is just a sturdier mounting place for it instead of the crappy thin door skin or the crappy plastic mounts.
killer sonata 
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I think you have the terms confused, anzboi3644. soultinter is talking about the foam speaker baffles you can get off of crutchfield or partsexpress. here are some links.

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=260-788

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-qYF7WpQZK4u/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?search=baffle&i=237XT65

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killer sonata 
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and they suck why? its easy to give negative comments but they are only useful when you back them up.
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