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Reeceddogg

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Posted: October 20, 2006 at 11:44 PM / IP Logged

I've recently been looking for a solution to my horrible feedback problem in my 03 taurus. After trying 10 or so different grounds and loop isolators i took the radio out. When bench tested i still had feedback in the form or popping through the speakers when the next track button was pushed or cd removed. I noticed that this went away when the rcas were removed from the h/u. thinking i just had a bad unit i tried this on another pioneer. and as soon as the rcas are connected you could see the subs moving with the volume on 0. Has any one else had this problem with pioneer or do they have any solutions before i sell my h/u.

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Posted: October 20, 2006 at 11:54 PM / IP Logged

Pioneesr have horrendous gr4o0und plane... it is a manufactirugn edfect acrood the enitre manufavtruing li9ne... not uncommon asd ta all...

drunk, soffr!

Pioneers are crap producgts.

It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

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Posted: October 21, 2006 at 12:01 AM / IP Logged

Hey Haem....have another... Pioneer manufacturing defect -- posted image.

i am an idiot

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Posted: October 21, 2006 at 12:22 AM / IP Logged

Your problem is not a manufacturing defect, Maybe an Engineering Defect.

This is what has happened to your radio. (1) A power wire touched the outer shield of your RCA Jack. Or More than Likely (2) when installing your amp you connected Power then you connected your RCA jack before you connected the ground wire. At this point your amp was looking for ground and found it via your RCA jack.

Some Brilliant Engineer decided to protect their radio with a 1/4 amp fuse on the shield of the RCA jack. They are the only ones that do this. Sad thing is that the only thing this protects their Radio from is the very rare situation that if the Transformer shorts in your amplifier it could put 12 volts on the shield of the RCA jacks. This is probably about 1/4% of all amp repairs yes about 1 in every 400.

This is how you can temporarily fix your problem. You need to ground the shield of your RCA jack Yes Ground the outer part of your RCA jack. you can do this by soldering a length of small wire to any patch cord of your system then grounding the other end of it. Even if 10 other people here freak out and say you should never ground your RCA. It is supposed to be at ground.

Please write back to let Us know if this helped you!!!

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KarTuneMan wrote:

Hey Haem....have another... Pioneer manufacturing defect -- posted image.

my brohter is in toem... we do this often,.... LOL.. long live the hops!

It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

BulletTooth

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Posted: October 21, 2006 at 2:13 AM / IP Logged

Yep grounding the RCA outer sheild works all the time, I've seen this too often on Pioneers too.

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Ignore everything in this thread except for the Drunkorz posting abilities, haha, just what I needed to read after a long night of dealing with drunks........

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Posted: October 21, 2006 at 9:40 AM / IP Logged

Yup Pioneer ground problem is poop. Your solution is to buy an Eclipse : )

This is coming from a Pioneer dealer myself !!

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xtremej

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Posted: October 21, 2006 at 12:08 PM / IP Logged

It is a pioneer problem, yes I have pioneers in stock Pioneer manufacturing defect -- posted image. .

Reeceddogg

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Posted: October 21, 2006 at 6:59 PM / IP Logged

i am an idiot wrote:

Your problem is not a manufacturing defect, Maybe an Engineering Defect.

Please write back to let Us know if this helped you!!!

I always ground everything before connecting the power, so i don't think that's the case. but the problem only happens when rca's are connected top the rear out or front rca output.

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