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2006 Dodge Ram Cummins Remote start prob


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oneshot 
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Hey all

I have recently put a Compustar Pro 1WSH-S (remote starter) into a 06 Dodge Turbo Deisel. Now the problem with the set-up is once the Truck has sat over night it will not stay running on the remote start. When my customer remote starts the truck, it waits the 12 secs (I have it set to wait about 12 secs for the glow plugs as per customer request), it cranks and runs for approx 5 secs then shuts down. The remote starter then cycles through the start and stop phase 2 more times then gives up. Now i have talked to my distributors about this and we have come up with it either being a poor tach signal, or the voltage in the truck is dipping below the compustar threshold which shuts the unit down. (This truck is equipped with "pre-heaters" in the climate control system, which heats the air in to the cabin befor the engine warms up, they draw ALOT of power) I am alittle unsure about the voltage dropping, my reason for this is that i would think once the voltage drops and the compustar shuts down wouldn't not attempt to start again? Also for the tach i went to the ECM on the drivers side of the engine, plug closest to the rad(i can't think of the wire colour). I have tested the tach multiple times and have not noticed any serious drop. If anyone has come across the same issue or has another suggestion please let me know.

Thank you

   Mike

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instead of using a tach try using the altenator sensing. Might be a better shot. For power try running your power straight from the battery.
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adjust your glow plug (wait to start) at least for 20 seconds.... leave the tach alone as is.
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None of this will work. I did a 2004 Dodge RAM diesel the other day and I'm getting it in again today for one last kick at the cat. Here's what I've tried so far:
1. Tach singal from the top of the engine in the 4 pin plug. System learned the tach, worked great up until it hit about -5 and it did the same thing it did with your truck
2. Alternator sensing wire worked great, started the truck, but would shut down after 1 minute of runtime. Doesn't work after 1 minute and doesn't try to restart either.
3. This is what I'm trying today, camshaft position sensor just left of the ECM, in a 3 pin plug.
Jeff
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Will the truck remote start when it been already warmed up....?

The 04 is a much different breed than the 06.

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That's right the tach they call for is the cam sensor or pin 24 on the front 60 pin connection at ECM.Also do remember violet/brown wire at the ignition switch is multiplexed this is the second start wire and the acc. wire.This has to be hooked up properly.As time goes on the wires are using less amps at the igntion switch.On some vehicles now you have to get a 12 volt feed for the remote starter from another 12 batt. feed than the ignition switch 12 batt. feed wires.
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on the 06 i would run the power directly from the battery...
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KarTuneMan wrote:

Will the truck remote start when it been already warmed up....?

The 04 is a much different breed than the 06.

DOES IT?

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The 2004 did and runs perfectly fine. It's not the tach signal, it's the tach threshold parameters on the Compustar unit that's not allowing seeing the tach signal range when it's cold. I relocated my tach signal to the cam sensor and the customer took it away yesterday and no calls last night or today. I'll see tomorrow if he left me a message on the answering machine.
Jeff
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This truck that you are doing is one of the hardest I had done thus far. I got the tach wire from the ECM, and I believe that the wire was blue, but I am not sure. I also remember there being about 3 ignitions, one which needed to be powered up by a negative pulse(using a relay). I believe that wire was purple and yellow. I dont think you have a tach signal problem though, because the vehicle is starting. Are getting some sort of inhibit? Which alarm is installed? Since it has been months that I have done a dodge RM, do they have some sort of transponder, or a chip in the key? What is happening to you sounds alot like when you try and RM a GM with passlock un bypassed.

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