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daffyduck 
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Posted: December 10, 2006 at 8:39 PM / IP Logged  

boulderguy wrote:
Last thought is are the speakers wired in-phase? Or is the sub wired out of phase?

Good question but it is beyond my knowledge :) I tried to invert sub's phase from the deck (if it has something to do with it) and there is not much difference, but a normal phase sounds a little better so I left it on.

They said that amp crossovers are set to 80hz. The best sound I am getting is when I set sub's crossover to 120hz, speakers' to 50hz (from the deck). So I think if they turn off amp crossovers (or make them wider) it should help.

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Posted: December 10, 2006 at 9:02 PM / IP Logged  
They need to set the crossovers and deck EQ with an RTA... Sounds to me like somebody at the shop has a "tin-ear" and is trying to tune it by ear, with generic settings, which are a good place to START, but not necessarily a good place to END.
Tell them to do it RIGHT! And tell them you won't leave till you're happy with it.
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Posted: December 10, 2006 at 10:37 PM / IP Logged  
I would be heading right back to see these guys. To me it sounds like alright equipment improperly set up and or matched together.
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agreed go back to the shop...and tell them what its doing, but do you and them a favor..dont be a dick we all have different hearing and like our systems to sound different. and i know from experience you get alot more done when you calmly explain your situation to them and ask them to fix it. i know i have had customers come in and tell me what im going to do...and nothing good comes out of that. ;)
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Posted: December 11, 2006 at 4:59 PM / IP Logged  
Be sure that the damping (Dynamat or equiv.) is installed in the front doors, rear parcel shelf deck (or where the rears are located), trunk lid, and any other places that resonate.  Especially the doors for that bass guitar you're missing.  If the fronts and the sub are both crossed at about 80Hz, you'll get the most of bass guitar right up front from those mids.  Damping is an essential that has to be done before trying to tweak deck and amp settings to get the sound right.   And as a wise one mentioned above, the doors have to be sealed tight, and the speaker mounting has to be airtight and solid.
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