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mikvot 
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Posted: January 28, 2007 at 11:22 AM / IP Logged  
yeah, i suppose it all depends on the division you were at. The 2 i've worked for , we would get paid for repairs. Usually half the normal install. With the division im at now, we are so small, and work so close together to each other, that i'll just make the installer that ***, come and fix his own work. I do undertand what you are saying about the no raise part though, but it hasnt been lowered for me, would be nice to get an extra buck or two. All i can say is that, i did leave the company for about 5 months, and realized that i didnt want to make the crappy money and deal with the headache of working in a normal shop environment.
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I had a few buddies work for this company and they loved it , until a year later Midwest Dealer Services decided to leave town and a bunch of guys jobless.  I alomost went to work for them butt decided not to at the last minute.  I think I made the correct decision.
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think we're talking about a different company, never heard of midwest dealer services, and havent heard of a division shutting down.
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This was the same company it could not be called southwest dealer services in Ohio.  The alarms were all put in with t-taps and the led and valet switch were mounted under dash and were on the same pod.
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Karr Security, apparently, is the franchise name. When I worked for Karr, it was owned and operated by Northern California Dealer Services, formerly Southwest California Dealer Services. I have no reason to refute the Karr in the Midwest would be named..... (drum roll please)........... Midwest Dealer Services. But what do I know?
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They went back to the Southwest dealer services maybe late last year. I agree with what youngblood says about the company (At least the one we worked for) and its true that no ones really gotten a raise. However, there was a rumor of one person getting one.

They let me go for a reason which was very... I'll just use the word 'dirty' because it  was total BS. I didnt fight to stay because I was already unhappy of how things were being ran, and had another job lined up. The only thing I miss is the dealership(s) I worked at, and the installers. Not dispatch, nor any of the supervisors/bosses because... I'll just leave it at that

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Posted: March 21, 2007 at 12:57 AM / IP Logged  
Does Lee still work for them?
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Like youngblood pointed out there are some boobo installs that some karr alarm techs do not all, but I ran into some unhappy customers especially my wifes relative who bought a brand new 2006 Town & Country minivan with a karr oem alarm upgrade were you use the factory car remotes to arm and disarm the karr alarm. well the van did not have 100 miles when it got towed in twice in two weeks because the tech who installed the alarm fried the car bcm now imagine driving the car in the street and everything turns off thank G.O.D, it was not the freeway cause it would be a tragic story. twice the van was towed in for the same reason. yes you have to hustle but then there's those techs that compromise and are careless. more work more money but why not flawless work more money and happy dealers and consumers. have some friends that work for swd company but yes they have to hustle and at the same time fix someone elses mistakes. southern california has a big market but the bulk installs and the mind over matter mentality on some techs suck. It's not mine so it don't matter. It will matter when they complain why they didn't get a bonus. hate t taps.
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The biggest problem with the mentality of most, if not virtually ALL, KARR alarm installers is that they appear to play percentages. Apparently, if a dealership sells 20% of the preloaded alarms, then 80% of the alarms are removed. This is the part that infuriated me because most of the installers would chuck the alarms under the dash with zero accountability because that alarm has probably one shot in ten that it will even reach a customer. If it doesn't reach the customer, then whether it works or not won't be an issue. If it isn't an issue, then why bother?
Unfortunately... I absolutely could not, with any degree of conscience, work with such guidelines. I took so much pride in my installs that it actually wized some other people off because they ended up drawing heat when I wasn't. What really sucked, is that I had to leave home at 4:45 am to commute to my lot and start installing at 6:00... I worked through most every lunch and hated the traffic so much, that I ended up staying on the lot till sometimes later than 8:00 and wouldn't get home until past 9:00pm. After a year and a half of that while watching other installers pull the same numbers working half the time, I couldn't take it any more.
I have a little challenge for ANYONE with a Karr alarm in their vehicle. Go look at it... tell me if you think they actually cared when it was installed. I used to cringe when I saw what they were doing.
As far as your Chrysler T&C... I think I was the only sucker out there that would diode isolate the crap out of that BCM correctly to avoid any issues. I was also the only installer that wasn't destroying the 2004 Toyota Siennas by going to the 12v+ parking light wire. I could go on and on, but fact of the matter is....
KARR SECURITY could give a **** *** about your vehicle.
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