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Posted: February 22, 2007 at 12:17 PM / IP Logged  

Hey everyone,

I was wondering if someone could give me measurements for a 3/4" MDF Sealed Box for 2 12" Kicker Comp VRs. I dont have a program to make one

HEre are the specs

Model:

Nominal Impedance [Zn], ohm [per coil]              2 or 4

Resonance Frequency [fs], Hz                            26.1

Power Handling Watts, Peak (RMS)                  800 (400)

Effective Excursion [EXmax™], in (mm)             .498 (12.64)

DC Resistance [Re], ohm [coils in series]            6.99

Mechanical Q-Factor [Qms]                                9.99

Electrical Q-Factor [Qes]                                    .556

Total Q-Factor [Qts]                                           .527

Equivalent Volume [Vas], ft3 (L)                      3.37 (95.37)

Net Displacement, in3 (cc)                            122.1 (2001)

Outer Frame Diameter, in (cm)                        12 1/2 (31.7)

Hole Cut-Out Diameter, in (cm)                         11 1/8 (28.3)

Mounting Depth, in (cm)                                   6 5/16 (16.1)

Minimum enclosure volume is 1 ft^3

Maximum enclosure volume is 4.6 FT^3

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Posted: February 22, 2007 at 3:25 PM / IP Logged  

Sure.  Measurements are inside:  W 20.5"  D 33.5"  H 12.6"  Total 5 cu ft.  Brace it down the center between the woofers...you can use a solid baffle if you want to.

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Posted: February 22, 2007 at 4:15 PM / IP Logged  
 i need something taller than that. the outher diameter of the sub is 12.5".. I prefer more height and width with less depth. Also i think it said the max is 4.6ft^3
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Posted: February 22, 2007 at 5:04 PM / IP Logged  
Aren't they talking about one sub when they say that?  Also, check over there to the left under woofer calculators.  Once you decide how much room you can give up for these subs, use the rectangular box calculator.
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Posted: February 22, 2007 at 7:11 PM / IP Logged  

YEs i believe u are right. Can u make the box a little bit wider and taller than more depth

THANKS!!!!!!!

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Posted: February 22, 2007 at 10:02 PM / IP Logged  

Alright, here's some more to pick from.  I'm still using 5 cu ft because I've looked at this sub before and thought (if you have that much room for it) it would be good (for two, of course!)  You can always cut dimensions down a little bit if you need to...remember, there is A LOT of play for designing a sealed box for this particular sub.  You can tell that by the manufacturer's description of anything "above 1 cu ft but not more than 4.6 cu ft" per sub.

W 23.4  D 24  H 15.4

W 21.5  D 21  H 19

W 22.8  D 22.4  H 17

W 24.8  D 24.3  H 14.3

W 23.7  D 26  H 14

Did you look at that volume calculator?  You can do this too.  If you want to leave the baffle thickness out of it altogether and just calculate inside volume, put a zero in the thickness box.

Also, keep in mind how  you are going to build in the bracing.  This box will certainly need at least one full-size interior baffle, and it should be front-to-back between the driver cutouts.  You can cut a large hole out of the baffle so that the box is all one interior volume, or you can use a solid baffle so that each sub has its own air space...same either way (I'd opt for the solid bracing baffle).  The face baffle gets the most pounding and is the weakest one of them all because of the cutouts.  And for a box this size, I'd use other bracing inside as well.  Here's an example:

subwoofer box dimensions needed -- posted image.

With a sealed box of this size, you don't really need to get too particular about measuring each piece of baffle material you use (takes up air space and is counted as "displacement").  Just skootch up the measurements of each dimension a little to make up for the displacement of bracing, drivers and baffle walls.  Like, a 22" W should become a 24", etc., which takes these material thicknesses into consideration.

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Posted: February 22, 2007 at 10:32 PM / IP Logged  
I have a sealed box for 2 15" kicker comp vrs and it sounds fine. i have no bracing.
using the dimensions. with 3/4" mdf wood whutt would the dimensions i need for the sheets of wood
W 23.4 D 24 H 15.4
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Posted: February 22, 2007 at 10:43 PM / IP Logged  

Take good advice when you get it, racerx22.  Bracing isn't mentioned just because I like to type a lot of words...

1.  Measure the space in your car to see what maximum size can be.

2.  Add thickness of material X number of panels to the dimensions of that proposed box.  See if this new bigger size fits the space.

3.  Draw a sketch of the box.  It doesn't have to be pretty.  Show all dimensions, inside and outside.

4.  Now break it down to a rectangular sketch of each panel.  Figure out how you are going to construct the box so that you know how the panels (baffles) will connect.  Draw plenty of little diagrams.  You will arrive at how big you need each panel to be.

Now is the time for you to get busy with paper and pencil and figure out your cut plans.  Use the dimensions of a 49" X 97" sheet of MDF and go to work.  Allow extra space for saw kerf, which is the waste caused by cutting.  This is where you are on your own.

EDIT to add:  When I gave you those measurements I seemed to forget that there were two 12" subs for the width.  Try out one of these wider boxes:

W 25.8  D 22  H 15.25

W 26.6  D 21.6  H 15

W 27.3  D 21.4  H 14.8

W 28  D 22  H 14

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Posted: February 23, 2007 at 12:37 PM / IP Logged  

ok.... Its going into a trail blazer. The dimensions of the trailblaze are

Width 46" inches

Height  20.5" Inches

depth 31" inches  ----dont wanna use that much

The dimensions you gave include the wood thickness?

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Posted: February 23, 2007 at 4:52 PM / IP Logged  

No.  W 28 X D 22 X H 14 would be just inside space.  With 3/4" MDF and one middle divider baffle, the overall outside dimensions would be W 30.25 X D 23.5 X H 15.5

Read the sticky above about how to build a sub box.  If you had tried out that easy-to-use calculator that I told you about with any of these dimensions, you would have seen that they all come out to 5 cu ft.  And if you know that 5 cu ft is your target for inside volume, you would also know that the dimensions couldn't possibly include the walls.

You should have learned enough about this part of the build to use the calculator yourself and arrive at a suitable box size for your vehicle.

Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.
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