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410440

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Posted: May 04, 2007 at 11:51 PM / IP Logged

I have a 1991 Honda Accord with (-) doorpins, the car is a manual transmission and i have a manual safe remote start, its a command start 595i. now i would like to hook up a relay to one of the auxillary outputs so that i would be able to temporarily disable either the driver or passenger door with the remote, so i can get into the car to grab a pack of smokes or something, without interupting the remote start sequence. Would someone be able to tell me how to wire up a relay to do this?

so for a relay would this work:

30 - door pin wire to remote start side

87a - door pin wire to switch side

85 - 12v

86 - (-) aux out from brain

87 - Ground

so if this would indeed work, when i trigger the relay to bypass the doorpin, would it have a long enough lag while triggering to let the R/S brain to see the loss of contact and think the door was opened?

Thanks

Matthew Robertson

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Posted: May 05, 2007 at 12:22 AM / IP Logged

I don't get it....the whole design of safety in mind, and you want to find a way around it.

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Posted: May 05, 2007 at 12:35 AM / IP Logged

but by having to press an aux button to disable the doorpin i would know not to put the thing in gear, besides anything i would need is in the door anyway. its only bypassing the safety feature on command, which i would know has done so.

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Posted: May 05, 2007 at 11:07 AM / IP Logged

The setup you describe above would bypass the doorpin for only as long as your alarm brain puts out its auxilary signal.

That's typically a 1-second pulse. But, if you look in the programming menu, it is sometimes possible to re-program the output for a timed interval, say, 30 seconds.

Besides all that, on the manual remote starters I've installed, you can simply do this:

1. Remote start the engine.

2. Open car door, get your cigarettes.

3. Close car door.

4. Turn off remote start with remote.

5. The remote start will still work next time.

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Posted: May 05, 2007 at 2:49 PM / IP Logged

Chris Luongo wrote:

Besides all that, on the manual remote starters I've installed, you can simply do this:

1. Remote start the engine.

2. Open car door, get your cigarettes.

3. Close car door.

4. Turn off remote start with remote.

5. The remote start will still work next time.

Bingo, this is the smart way to do it.

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Posted: May 05, 2007 at 5:38 PM / IP Logged

I know that works, the procedure you described, except i have loud exaust on my car, so if its midnight or 1 in the morning i dont want to be starting my car and waking up the neighbourhood, thats why im trying to bypass the doorpin temporarily.

Matthew Robertson

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Posted: May 05, 2007 at 6:33 PM / IP Logged

To be honest, I have the same issue (loud exhaust, manual trans, remote start) and I just do what Chris Luongo described. Better to err on the side of safety is my mantra. And even if you do this, who's to say that some JACKALOPE won't "accidentally" bypass your remote start temporarily and inadvertantly bump your car into gear??

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410440

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Posted: May 06, 2007 at 12:51 AM / IP Logged

well i would say that some jackalop wouldnt, mainly for the reason, that: how the heck would he figure out you have to press a specific to button combination and hold those buttons as to temporarily disable a doorpin to grab something from the car, im not talking about permanently disabling it here, im talking about disabling with an auxillary out from the brain, not exactly a common thing to do. so i doubt some random joe gets a hold of my keys, sets the remote start sequence then some how figures out that the doorpin can be temporarily disabled.

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Posted: May 06, 2007 at 3:38 PM / IP Logged

410440 wrote:

so for a relay would this work:

30 - door pin wire to remote start side

87a - door pin wire to switch side

85 - 12v

86 - (-) aux out from brain

87 - Ground

Thanks

If you can program your aux. output to do a 30 second timed output this would work fine. Only thing wrong with your relay setup is 87 should not be connected to anything.

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Posted: May 06, 2007 at 4:43 PM / IP Logged

Use a spare aux from alarm, set it to timed output for however long eg 1min., join to 85. 12v+ to 86; cut lead to driver door switch and join ends to 87 a and 30, ignore 87.

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