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silentblackhat 
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Posted: June 06, 2007 at 10:39 AM / IP Logged  

I am making a fiberglass door pod and i have a mount for my crossover that I am displaying.  I am trying to figure out how to make the 2 curves exactly the same(im shaping the edges with bodyfiller since its raised).  I am havng trouble making the very top corners exactly the same.  does anyone have any tips?

Here are the pictures of the curve im talking about, the 2 corners from different angles:

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bellsracer 
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I can't see your second and thrid picture, but here is what I do for these situations:

Get a contour guage (between $5 - $15 depending on width/construction) and grid the project. Use thte contour guage to match your ideal corner. Lock the guage and move to the next corner using the guage as your line to match. Sand down or fill in to get the project ot wear you want it.

Simple and easy ^-^

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silentblackhat 
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sry idk why they arent showing up on there, i keep trying to post it but they wont come up so ill post them here

http://simplecashbuilder.com/files/fiber/curves/3.JPG

http://simplecashbuilder.com/files/fiber/curves/2.JPG

silentblackhat 
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Posted: June 08, 2007 at 12:57 AM / IP Logged  
I realize that one side has more of a slope because its not even on both sides but ill try the idea above to see what i come up with
edgeaudio 
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Heads up! You don't want to rely on filler for shape. Or you wind up in the situation you are in now. Also I'm would suggest just getting them as close as possible because they are not right next to each other. Are you painting them or vinyl or suede... some of the coverings will mask a certain amount of unevenness. Another nice trick with the filler is before its hardened completely is when you start shaping cuts way down on dust and hours of time!
Good Luck
silentblackhat 
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Posted: June 12, 2007 at 3:22 AM / IP Logged  

edgeaudio wrote:
Heads up! You don't want to rely on filler for shape. Or you wind up in the situation you are in now.
Good Luck

What do you mean? what should I use for shape? the part that has the longest side is mostly fiberglass anyways, its just that one side that has filler.

bellsracer 
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How far off are the curves? If they are close enough you'll have different options. Bondo will take care of uneveness that is 1/8" or less in difference. Otherwise I would use duraglass or something like that until 1/2". Any thicker than that, consider rebuilding or stretching FG cloth (not mat), reinforce with duraglass, and cleanup with bondo.

Anything else I can help you with? Don't hesitate to ask dear.

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silentblackhat 
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is duraglass just reinforced bidyfiller? that is what I used on this, except its the bondo-glass  einforced filler
edgeaudio 
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having matching trim rings and skeletons before you wrap your project in fleece then aply the fiberglass resin. I prefer to make a "milk shake" mixture of resin and body filler, apply that to the fleece then when it kicks it is MUCH easier to sand, then re-enforce from the inside tear off pieces of fiberglass matting and apply on inside only, in the hard to get areas like behind the ring or tight corners use dura-glass or milled fiber (careful with milled fiber it's nasty stuff). then all you want to use the body filler on the outside is to smooth your shape, fill in air bubbles (rage gold or extreme is much better then bondo brand), next you glazed fill until perfect, i prefer high build primer next, sand, repeat, paint, "viola" you have a matching panel... i am guessing that you may have been a little anxious in the first few stages and now are trying to salvage what you could just as easily redo correctly in a shorter amount of time...
Remember: Learn from your mistakes and next project will seem easy.
silentblackhat 
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Posted: June 13, 2007 at 9:59 AM / IP Logged  

ill probably cut off everything except for the skeleton, and then do it later. i spent so much time on this project so far trying to correct things. i know the other side of the car will take literally 1/20th of the time to make now


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