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parrot ck3100 in nav-2005 corvette


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SteveL2 
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Joined: July 31, 2005
Location: United States
Posted: July 31, 2005 at 10:28 PM / IP Logged  

Hi all,

Sorry for yet another parrot bluetooth kit thread, but mine is somewhat car specific and I didn't find the specific topic elsewhere.  Anyhow, I killed an embarrasing amount of time chasing thru Parrot's instructions this weekend, and at this point in the battle I am stuck with the mute function not working.

My 05 vette has a HU that feeds a separate bose amp. I've got the parrot kit so that everything works except the mute, but if the amp is on, the telephone sound is terrible, even if I turn the volume of the radio all the way down. If I cut power to the amp completely, the telephone sound is awesome (it's just direct at that point from the parrot to the midrange speakers in the door).  If the amp stays on while the parrot outputs to the speakers, it sounds terrible.  So, I am hoping if I can solve the mute issue, then all will be perfect.

The radio HU has 2 connectors, and both per the GM manual have a pin labeled "Amplifier Mute Signal," although one also mentions the OnStar option which I don't have. By testing, I have found the OnStar mute pin sits at 4 vdc and grounding it does NOT mute the radio. Worse yet, because I don't have the OnStar option, the harness connector has no female pin it for this radio pin, so I did this test just by probing thru the connector.  The other pin that says "Amplifier Mute Signal" and connects to the HU is an open circuit during operatoin, and if I hook 12 vdc to it then the system mutes. However, since I've seen a lot of talk of using ground to perform the mute (and that's what the parrot provides), it makes me nervous to follow this test and full-time use the 12 vdc to this pin for purposes of muting.  I have no idea of how coupling in 12 vdc from an external source will be perceived by both the HU and the amp.
Using a relay to cut power to the HU is not an option b/c that will turn off my navigation (and who knows what else), which I don't want to do.
I guess I could use the parrot ground signl to switch a relay to cut the power to the amp; that way the HU stays on.  However, I'm not sure how that amp will handle being periodically shut off and on, and I have no experience with auto amps so I don't know their behavior.  Normally, the hot wire to the amp is ALWAYS hot, that is, it does not shut off with the ignition or after time or after a door is opened, so I'm guessing there is some other data signal to it that lets it "sleep" so as to avoid power consumption when the car has been off for awhile.  The amp didn't seem to mind when I unplugged it and plugged it back in, but that's just 1 or 2 times, not repeatedly as the mute signal from the bluetooth kit will do.

If anyone has any thoughts, I'd sure appreciate it.  Thanks a ton.

steve

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Copper spacespace
Joined: March 22, 2005
Location: United States
Posted: August 04, 2005 at 2:18 AM / IP Logged  
Put a computer safe test light to that mute wire and see if it shuts the radio off.........I havent had the opportunity to pull the radio on a 05 vette yet so im not sure what it looks like. If it is the same harness as say a 05 suburban...then you can use a harness to mute the radio and run it through the sound system.
SteveL2 
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Member spacespace
Joined: July 31, 2005
Location: United States
Posted: August 04, 2005 at 9:33 AM / IP Logged  

Thanks for your suggestion.  I must admit, I'm not familiar with a computer safe test light and that would be interesting to try.

In the meantime, I've spent a lot more time on this project and I've found what I think is a solution, although it's not what I would've expected. I'll share it here for others should they go down this road.

First, my car has the nav unit but does not have OnStar.  This might be important because the mute input I think is supposed to be for the OnStar, if that option is used.  However, since I didn't choose that option, perhaps my NAV HU was not programmed to use this pin as it would with OnStar.  I say this b/c grounding that mute pin most certainly does not mute the system -- I also tried several different grounds, with no success.  When I experimented further and put 12 vdc on it, I later noticed that indeed some sound was still at the speakers (very slight).  Also, the parrot, which was connected in parallel to the output of the separate amplifer, provided very poor signal at that point, so clearly there was some interference (or low impedance?) from the amp output.

Someone else identified a different pin to me, namely, an "antenna enable" pin.  I don't know why, but it turns out if you open this connection, the amp does mute, and its outputs must go high impedance because this worked perfectly, that is, the amp output did not interfere at all with the parrot ouput.  Also, power continues to the amp and there's no thump noise upon either disconnect or re-connect.

So, in the end, I used a relay to open the antenna enable signal when the parrot bluetooth receives a call, and all works as planned.  When I receive a phone call, it mutes the car audio and plays the call over the factory mid-range speakers, and when the call terminates, the car audio returns.

This HU is by no means straightforward!  Take care.


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