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parody 
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Posted: June 12, 2003 at 5:42 AM / IP Logged  
Hi All,
I installed a (Pyramid?) fm modulator in my Toyota Sienna, to get audio input from a dvd. I noticed that I was getting a high pitched whine when the engine was on, so I assumed I had a grounding problem.
I tapped into power from an auxiliary 12v jack, and grounded to a bare metal portion of the body. As I was fiddling around with it, I deliberately cut the ground wire, expecting the FM modulator to stop working. However, it did not!
It's obviously grounding thru the antenna wire. Is this FM modulator defective -- it's not supposed to work this way, right????
Thanks!
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Posted: June 12, 2003 at 8:15 AM / IP Logged  

Actually it is supposed to work that way, but usually you need a better ground than just the one in the antenna.  After cutting the grounding wire, are you still getting the high pitched whining sound?  What year is the sienna, and have you tried one of these antenna noise filters?

Finally, does the pitch of the whining sound change along with the engine RPMs?  Or does it stay constant the whole time?

Ethan
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parody 
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Posted: June 12, 2003 at 10:27 AM / IP Logged  
esmith69 wrote:

Actually it is supposed to work that way, but usually you need a better ground than just the one in the antenna.  After cutting the grounding wire, are you still getting the high pitched whining sound?  What year is the sienna, and have you tried one of these antenna noise filters?

Finally, does the pitch of the whining sound change along with the engine RPMs?  Or does it stay constant the whole time?

Yes, it the whining sound changes with RPM's. It's a 2003 Sienna. I haven't tried an antenna noise filter.
I had my wife pick up one of these:
Ground loop Isolator
We'll see if that makes any difference. Otherwise, try a noise filter?
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The ground loop isolator could very well fix your problem.  If not, also make sure the head unit has a good ground connection.  And then the next step if it's still getting the noise would be to try one of these alternator whine noise filters.

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parody 
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Posted: June 13, 2003 at 6:17 AM / IP Logged  
esmith69 wrote:

The ground loop isolator could very well fix your problem.  If not, also make sure the head unit has a good ground connection.  And then the next step if it's still getting the noise would be to try one of these alternator whine noise filters.

Yes, the ground loop isolator solved the problem -- no more whine!

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