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bullman96 
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decided to start a new topic.  am looking for a 3way digital crossover, and possibly a 30band eq.  i need the crossover to have no more than increments of 10hz as it is going to take some trial and error to my 2 8s to go with my comps and sub.  if i cant do that interval, ill just build crappy passives until i find the frequencies, but i would prefer not to.  my budget for the crossover is around 500, give or take 200.  i looked at audiocontrol and at zapco.  two extremes and am wondering what would lay in the middle? 

    i wont be putting in a 30 band for a while as funds are low and i have a 13 band on my deck which works for my daily driving but i would like to get some ideas and start shopping around.  thanks guys

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oh yeah, the ones i am looking at are the Zapco SX-SL and the Audiocontrol DXS
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Perfect product for you:

http://www.audiocontrol.com/MobileAudio/Products/Digital/DQX.html

30 band digital EQ and 3-way xo.  All in one product.  Also, don't be fooled by audiocontrol's fair prices.  They make nice stuff.

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wow, on the mark $499.  and everything.  still would like to hear some other suggestions as their isnt really any posts on this subject and i dont think im the only person to ever look for one.
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Posted: January 21, 2005 at 1:18 PM / IP Logged  

Good call on the DQX.  There are othjer similar products, but not with AudioControl quality or at that low a price point.

My question is why do you think you need an EQ?

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right now i have a 13 band which is fine for my setup, but i am getting a 2002 bmw for almost nothing this spring and am saving 4 grand from what i had saved. i am planning on redoing my entire system expcept for the deck and possible components. the rest ill sell so ill have 5000 plus whatever i save up until then to make a really nice sq setup. ill get a good spectrum analyzer and oscillope so the 30 band will get put to good use. i was just thinking in advance and i need a 3 way crossover right now. be warned, i will be posting a lot of q's in the summer
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Posted: January 22, 2005 at 12:14 AM / IP Logged  
Actually I was going to suggest a different piece, not that the Audio Control is not a nice piece - The AltoMobile UCSPro
Here is the link directly to the page for it...
Major differences include:
8 presets vs. 64 presets
2 parametric bands vs. 31 parametric bands
1 crossover slope vs. 5 crossover slopes
fixed crossover characteristic vs. 3 selectable crossover characteristics
no time delay vs. time delay
no noise gate vs. fully adjustable noise gate
no compression/limiting vs. adjustable compression/limiting
The compressor/limiter will protect your speakers from dynamic damage, and is QUITE a useful feature/tool. Also, if you so desire, you can download the UCSPro software to install and try out before you commit to the purchase. There is also an in-dash controller module for it. Yes, it is optional, but so is the in-dash controller for the Audio Control.
This will download the manual (with specs) for the AudioControl, so please feel free to look them over, but I am sure that you will see the Alto is a better box for the money. BTW, my system is below, all installed by me, so you can see that I might just know a little bit about good gear (pat on my own back... LOL)
2001 Honda Civic LX
Eclipse 8051 E8 deck
Eclipse 3122 driving Infinity emit Kappa tweeters 80w X 2
Eclipse 32440 driving Eclipse 89940 Point source 6X9's 120w X 4, bi-wired, bi-amped
Eclipse 34230 driving Morel MW-162 6" midbass in doors 370w X 2
Eclipse DA7122 driving Eclipse SW9122 12" Titanium sub 1350w X 2
RedTop Optima 12v under the hood
(2) AltoMobile UCSPro, one for doors, one for sub
2 RedTop Optima 6v in trunk, one each side wired in series
2 Rockford Fosgate 1 Farad caps on custom hand built power bars
Alterstart 165 Amp alternator with Datel 150A Current Shunt and blue LED meter for monitoring current output
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
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Haemphyst, how much does that unit run?
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Posted: January 22, 2005 at 1:08 AM / IP Logged  
I think it's current retail is around 600 or so, a bit more than the AC unit, but it DOES do a BUNCH more than the AC.
I can't say for certain the ACTUAL price, because I bought mine through channels I am not able to divulge (and, no, they're not stolen digital crossover choice and future plan -- posted image.), but the forum on the Alto site should be able to get you a location in your area for purchasing.
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
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Posted: January 22, 2005 at 1:32 AM / IP Logged  

Good tip on the forum.  $600 seems like a great price actually.  I wish the home audio industry would come out with a comparable product in this space at less than $1,000. 

I'm intrigued by the Thunderdome midrange and those shallow subwoofers.  Any experience or word on them haemphyst?  Are they the real deal?

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