the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
icon

Coil magnetic interference


Post ReplyPost New Topic
< Prev Topic Next Topic >
stevdart 
Platinum - Posts: 5,816
Platinum spaceThis member has made a donation to the12volt.com. Click here for more info.spaceThis member has been recognized as an authority in Mobile Audio and Video. Click here for more info.spaceThis member consistently provides reliable informationspace
Joined: January 24, 2004
Location: Pennsylvania, United States
Posted: May 03, 2005 at 7:15 PM / IP Logged  

In this depiction, if these three coils had to be placed close together on a circuit board, would their magnetic planes interfere with either of the other two coils?  And is each coil considered to be at 90 degrees, or perpendicular, to the other two coils?

Coil magnetic interference -- posted image.

Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.
haemphyst 
Platinum - Posts: 5,054
Platinum spaceThis member has been recognized as an authority in Electrical Theory. Click here for more info.spaceThis member has been recognized as an authority in Mobile Audio and Video. Click here for more info.spacespace
Joined: January 19, 2003
Location: Michigan, Bouvet Island
Posted: May 03, 2005 at 7:28 PM / IP Logged  
No,they will not interfere,and this is the very reason high-end speaker builders place their coils this way. Anybody that tells you that "the coil values are optimized for same-plane mounting" is full of shiznit, as the compensation in such a mounting will be dynamic. It WILL NOT be the same compensation (value changes) at 1 watt as it would be at 100 watts. I mention this, becaus I have actually heard people say they have been compensated for, because of this mounting scheme.
I almost forgot, each coil will be 90 degrees to EACH of the other two coils, axis X, right (angles) to Y and Z, axis Y right to X and Z, and axis Z right to X and Y.
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
stevdart 
Platinum - Posts: 5,816
Platinum spaceThis member has made a donation to the12volt.com. Click here for more info.spaceThis member has been recognized as an authority in Mobile Audio and Video. Click here for more info.spaceThis member consistently provides reliable informationspace
Joined: January 24, 2004
Location: Pennsylvania, United States
Posted: May 03, 2005 at 7:39 PM / IP Logged  
Oh good, you're on duty tonight!  I've been confused about coil magnetic planes but it's recently starting to sink in.  I posted a pic yesterday of the crammed circuit boards I put into my rear surround speakers (that you gave me such good help with, haemphyst :) and I suddenly realized after seeing the pic that I should pull those boards out and rearrange the coils.  They're all lying flat in the same plane.  There's four coils in a 4" X 7" space but I think if I use variations of these three ways of setting them, I can alleviate any interference that's going on.
Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.
haemphyst 
Platinum - Posts: 5,054
Platinum spaceThis member has been recognized as an authority in Electrical Theory. Click here for more info.spaceThis member has been recognized as an authority in Mobile Audio and Video. Click here for more info.spacespace
Joined: January 19, 2003
Location: Michigan, Bouvet Island
Posted: May 03, 2005 at 7:55 PM / IP Logged  
Yep, I THOUGHT you were trying to trick me into posting... LOL
I thought about that same thing when I saw your pic posted yesterday. My bad... I neglected to mention this when we were working out your system. If you like to run lots of power on a fairly regular basis, I would definitely adjust their axes... If you never run more than a few watts (few: definition, up to 25 or so... even 50 watts is only 3.5A - not a lot of current to be concerned with), you will probably not see much difference. Transient response will be affected MOST by your present configuration, and if you are noticing transient lag, yeah, rearrange them. Whichever way you go, the multi-axis configuration will NEVER hurt.
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

Sorry, you can NOT post a reply.
This topic is closed.

  Printable version Printable version Post ReplyPost New Topic
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

  •  
Search the12volt.com
Follow the12volt.com Follow the12volt.com on Facebook
Thursday, October 31, 2024 • Copyright © 1999-2024 the12volt.com, All Rights Reserved Privacy Policy & Use of Cookies
Disclaimer: *All information on this site ( the12volt.com ) is provided "as is" without any warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, including but not limited to fitness for a particular use. Any user assumes the entire risk as to the accuracy and use of this information. Please verify all wire colors and diagrams before applying any information.

Secured by Sectigo
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
Support the12volt.com
Top
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer