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pirateupholster 
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Posted: November 30, 2008 at 7:33 PM / IP Logged  

I would like to first give some praise to the members and professianals of this forum who lend their experience and advice to others with less knowledge then themselves.  I have searched this forum and found pros that are willing to lend their advice which I have found to be pretty rare in specialty fields.

I have some electronic knowledge and my wife was given an Audiovox Prestige remote starter for her birthday so I am trying to install the starter myself ( with this economy, I have to!)  I have most of the unit installed but I have a few questions.

Diodes- They were included with the kit, I know what  their function is,  but do I need them for my particular car? If so, which wires? I can upload the wiring diagram for the starter if need be.

I found a forum post regarding a 2007 civic which someone was kind enough to post the wiring diagram for. I have found the wires in the 08 to coincide with the 07. However, I have some trouble with the wiring.

My unit has two ignition output wires, Ignition 1 and ignition 2. The diagram for the 2007 civic shows one ignition wire. Is it safe to wire both ignition output wires to the one ignition wire on the ignition switch?

Rather then take the door panel off to test the door switch, are they ground switched or positive switched on an 08 civic?

is the break light switch 12v switched or ground switched?

Lastly, the diagram says - Power lock- Green type B    Power unlock-Gray type B

What does a type B wire look like?

Thanks in advance for any help!

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Are you referring to the large diodes in a pre-made Y configuration or the pack of 15 resistors included with the Prestige starters?
The wiring information for the 07 Civic is the same as the 08.
You do not need to wire both ignition outputs to the same vehicle wire, one works fine. If your system's second ignition output is programmable you could use that for the second accessory wire if needed. If you post the exact model of the system someone may be able to grab the manual and verify how to change the output mode of the secondary output from the audiovox.
The door locks are negative triggers, supplying a low current negative to the listed wires activates factory relays controlling the door locks in the vehicle. Your system provides both positive and negative outputs for the door locks. On vehicles that have negative trigger door locks but the wires do not rest at +12V I use diodes to keep the positive outputs from the RS brain from ever hitting the factory wires.
Brake wire: the correct wire will show +12V when the brake pedal is pushed.
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Posted: November 30, 2008 at 8:11 PM / IP Logged  

You only need to use Ignition 1 coming from the remote start unit.  Simply insulate the end of the Ignition 2 wire coming from the remote start unit.

The brake wire is a switched positive voltage.  There are 2 wires on the switch, one has 12 volts on it all the time, the other has 12 volts only when the pedal is depressed, that is the wire you want to connect to.

2008 honda civic remote starter -- posted image.Power UnlockGRAY(-)IN HARNESS IN DRIVER KICKPANEL
2008 honda civic remote starter -- posted image.PowerLockGREEN(-)IN HARNESS IN DRIVER KICKPANEL

Power Lock wire may be Blue
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Lets see if i can answer this one at a time.
It looks like the vehicle has a separate lock and arm wire as well as a separate unlock and disarm wire. Try putting ground to the disarm wire to see if it works the door locks. Audiovox says
Power Unlock GRAY (-) IN HARNESS IN DRIVER KICKPANEL          
PowerLock GREEN      (-) IN HARNESS IN DRIVER KICKPANEL *May Also be Blue
Alarm Disarm BROWN (-) IN HARNESS IN DRIVER KICKPANEL          
Alarm Arm ORANGE (-) IN HARNESS IN DRIVER KICKPANEL
So it sounds like they are all 4 in the kick panel. If pulsing the arm and disarm doesnt work the locks use a diode to pulse the arm and lock at the same time, and then unlock and disarm at the same time.
If there is no second ignition or accessory you do not need to hook up the green programmable wire at all. audiovox says second ignition may not be present on all models. If it is it should be black red. They also state there is a 2nd accessory so you may need a relay to activate that as well.
Audiovox says the brakeswitch is
Brake Lights LIGHT GREEN (+) AT SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL          
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Pirate, sorry it took us so long to get back to you, but you did notice that once we started answering, they just kept on coming.

Type B was not a reference to the wire.  It was describing the configuration of the door lock system in that car.  You would need to look on their webpage to find out what they call a type B system.

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you will need the diodes if you use the lock and unlock to control arm and disarm.

I have never been able to keep up with the whole type A,B,C....to Z lock thing. call it what it is, neg. trigger!2008 honda civic remote starter -- posted image.

pirateupholster 
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Thanks for all the replys. I think with this info I can complete the job. I have one last question I just thought of. I noticed on the antenna wire harness there were a few wires. Which two wires should I hook up the 556uw to?

Thanks again for all the help.

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Posted: December 08, 2008 at 7:22 PM / IP Logged  

make sure you got the 12v constant, blue negative trigger or status input and the transponder ring, you should run the ring to the cylinder and make sure its its tightly in place. now i suggest you fork out the extra 30 dollars and get a Fortin HONDA-SL3, key-override-all, Idatalink bypass or bypass kits. something that is data so you dont loose a key since the 08 only comes with 2 and less hassle to deal with, more reliable than the KIB method.


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