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racerjames76 
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Posted: May 21, 2011 at 9:52 AM / IP Logged  

Hello,

I recently installed a Clifford 50.7x and smart start on a 2010 Jeep Commander. All went smooth except for finding the parking light wire.

I found the relay under the hood that clicks when the lights are turned on, but all of my sources say not to use that, and offer no other solution.

Does anyone know of a parking light wire to use, without running a relay to each corner bulb?

-James

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howie ll 
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Posted: May 21, 2011 at 11:53 AM / IP Logged  
Your info is correct, DEI lists a WHITE/ dark blue, NEG pulse at the hazard switch.
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Straight negative at Pin1 of the parking light relay at the IPM under the hood.  To test the connection, remove the relay and test for a ground signal in the relay socket of the IPM when turning on the parking lights. Solder a thin gauge wire to directly to the pin of the relay and you are good to go. You cannot use Positive lights because the relay rests at ground. There is no negative wire in the car because the lights are turned on from the switch via data. We've been doing the "relay" trick sice the 99 jeep cherokee came out.

Frank

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I know the relay trick worked on the older stuff, but i tested all the pins at the relay and none of them changed polarity with the switch..
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Which is why I told you where to look NOT the relay.
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Posted: May 22, 2011 at 9:57 AM / IP Logged  
I am aware they suggest using the hazard switch, but that is not an option. The customer doesn't want that, nor do I. Never mind the Clifford has no pulse out after shutdown, so i could not turn the hazards back off. My response was directed towards flobee4's message. Would i have to test that pin with the relay in its socket?
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I did that and none of the pins changed in any switch position... I know it was the right relay because the lights dont come on with that relay removed.
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Sorry for the late response, You will be testing for a negative @ the relay socket with the relay removed. I usually put my red probe on the battery and then test with my black lead in the socket. on the jeeps it is always pin 1, but i always test. I attached a picture of how its done for the older commander. The technique is the same for the newer ones also. Relays need power and ground always to turn on. Haven't seen a mechanical relay with a coil directly triggered by a data signal yet. No matter how complex the circuit is before the relay, the relay will only react to power and ground :)
2010 commander parking light wire -- posted image.
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The relay trick worked, i was using a logic probe and it didnt pick up the change in polarity on pin 1 unless the relay was in its socket. I attached the wire, inserted the relay and it worked correctly as a straight negative trigger. Thanks again for all the help! Hope this helps someone in the future!
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