Well I have a Clifford currently installed and was done by a "Pro" and that thing always acts up in different weather. My doors unlock when it feels like it, but aside from that the system seems to a least be a little better in terms of quality which was bought years ago though. Yes I remember they got bought out. The cheaper alarm has been working okay until I fried the relays on the door locks, but then again the quality I think is not quite there which is the reason I will try yet a different brand which I think I found. I'm just waiting to see if the manufacturer will reply to my email to see how their support is. I can also get the installation manual of the web which is not something you can say about Clifford. I understand why they do that, but it also comes down to the installation of any system on top of the quality. I understand that. So I agree with some of what you have said, but I have been installing my own stereos since I was in high school. Yes I know they are a bit different, but I like this sort of thing for my own cars. I don't do this for a living. And as I mentioned I have had problems with all my alarms no matter where it was installed. So this is the reason I want to do it, myself. Don't get me wrong, I know there are some very good people out there and alarms differ as well. So I'm not saying the alarms are bad either.
Here's an example...when I was in high school and just gotten my very first old car. I got a stereo and the darn thing would not sound good. I stopped by a shop and the installer was really nice and knowledgeable and looked under my dash, saw the mess of wires and put the wires together correctly. He fix my radio and I asked how much I owed him, but he didn't charge me anything. The shop went out of business years ago, but I have never forgotten that installer. So it was a good lesson for me. I try to help people where I can when I can, and most importantly it didn't matter that my car was old and beat up. I like my old cars and when I stop by a shop, I have gotten pretty much brushed off when they see my old car which I'm used to by now. Kind of like when a pretty girl looks down at you because you drive and old car.
In short please don't take it wrong. I'm not saying all installers are bad or trying to bash anyone at all. This has just been my experience with the alarms and when I went back to try and have them look at my last install because I couldn't start my car, they wanted to charge me again to unplug and test the darn thing. I ended up doing it all myself. I fully understand people have to make a living but the thought of me going to any shop for anything is not a good one anymore. But that's just me.
howie ll wrote:
Clifford is part of Viper, now the same products different labels.
Frankly if you think Clifford alarms are too expensive then don't waste your time, you get what you pay for and all the decent product, DEI, Compustar, Avoxx are roughly the same price.
Too often seen people get into trouble with cheapo product which either doesn't work, fries itself or fries their car.
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