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87gnblackdemon 
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Posted: August 05, 2003 at 5:59 PM / IP Logged  
I know how to wire the relay to make this work, but I have a few questions.
I installed a Python 3000ESP in the car, and I installed a relay in between her starter wire so when armed the car won't start. Now to do the radio faceplate idea, do I:
Install another relay?
Use the alarm relay?
If I use another relay, can I hook the two relays together? or should their wires not touch?
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Posted: August 06, 2003 at 12:46 AM / IP Logged  
I would install another relay ( triggered by the face plate ) but have it disable the ignition wire instead of being redundant on the starter wire.
Jeff
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87gnblackdemon 
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Posted: August 06, 2003 at 4:30 AM / IP Logged  

I would hook it up to the igniton wire the same way I would to the starter wire?

Heres what my info tells me to do.

pin 85- ground

pin86-power antenea wire on radio

pin 30-one side of starter wire

pin 87- other side of starter wire.

Except I'll substitute the ignition wire for the starter wire like you said, correct?

I've got a few people over at sounddomain.com teling me I can't have my radio faceplate act as a kill switch. R they wrong?

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Posted: August 06, 2003 at 8:28 AM / IP Logged  
Anything is possible and I remember another member from this forum did the same thing on his deck last year and it worked for him. Here is the link to it: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=1488&KW=radio+kill+switch&PN=0&tpn=2
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I just answered you over at SD saying its possible....you might have to rewire your radio from acc to ignition.
DON'T use the ignition wire. If you do, try this trick: Get going about 80 down the highway and tell your friend to remove your faceplate (or turn off the radio). Let me know what happens :)
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I just have one question, how will the radio turn on if you have broken the ignition wire, unless your radio is powered from a different source it will not be able to turn on because you have cut the ignition wire.  Don't know if what I said makes sense but it's something to think about.

87gnblackdemon 
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Heres the link that gave me the idea for the face plate kill switch.

http://www.geocities.com/bracecraig/maxima/kill/

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Posted: August 07, 2003 at 7:39 PM / IP Logged  
kenmci, he is doing a starter kill, not an ignition kill.
Velocity Motors suggested an ignition kill which is a bad idea because the car would shut off whenever you turn off the radio - including while driving.

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