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m11gt 
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Posted: October 27, 2004 at 11:25 AM / IP Logged  

HI. this is my first time installing an alarm. I have a FM 2 way alarm.

the following is how i connected the wires.

direct = to the wire mentioned (with no relays, diodes, nothing)

relayed = connected to a relay

as far as the window roll up module i connected it like this

[img]https://www.the12volt.com/images/2window.gif[/img]

This is what i did, please let me know if i did it correctly or not and what needs to be changed. I have a 300zx 93 na. the alarm brains is not connected as of yet. just the wirring. i would like to make sure that it is right, before i connect it.

thank you

Alarm ColorAlarmWire On Car/ ColorLocaion
greenLock output (-)500mABrown Driver's Door Harness relayed
red+12V relay power output 100mAWhite Ignition Switch Harness relayed
blueUnlock output (-) 500mABrown Also at Lock Timer Driver's Kick Panel relayed
    
GREEN / WHITEBrake input (+)RED / Black Brake Switch direct
BLACK/ grayTachometer InputYellow/Red Test Connector Left fender direct
WHITE/ redAuxiliary 2 output (-)500mApower windows windows roll up moduledirect
BLACK/ whiteDome Light output (-)500mANot needed 
yellowIgnition Input (+)BLACK/ Red Ignition Switch Harness Anti-grind Relay 85
blue / YELLOWGlow Plug Input (+)Not neededdiesel cars
blue/whitePassenger Unlock Output (-)500mAnot needednot needed
blue/orangeRemote start Output (-)500mAfactory alarm bypassnot needed
blackGroundthe groundthe grounddirect
red+12V Battery Input #3White Ignition Switch Harness direct
violetDoor trigger Input (+)BlueAnti-Theft Module behind Glove Compartmentdirect
greenDoor trigger Input (-)RED / White (-) Anti-Theft Module behind Glove Compartmentdirect
WHITE/ blackHood/ Trunk Input (-)ORANGE / Blue (-) Anti-Theft Module behind Glove Compartmentdirect
orangeArmed Output (-)500mAAnti-grind relaywhereeverAnti-grind Relay 86
violet/whiteFactory Alarm Disarm Output (-)500mAGray/Red (-) Driver's Kick Panel or Anti-Theft Module direct
WHITE/ violetFactory Alarm Arm Output (-)500mABlue/RedDriver's Kick Panel or Anti-Theft Module direct
brownSiren Output +siren red wireblack siren must be groundeddirect
grayAuxiliary 1 output (-)500mAno cluefor additional operations 
whiteParking Light Output (+/- Built in relay)GREEN/ RedLight Switchdirect
BROWN / whiteHorn Output (-)500mAGREEN / WHITE (-) Steering Column direct
    
violetStarter outputBLACK/ White Ignition Switch Harness Anti-grind Relay 30
yellowIgnition 1 OutputBLACK/ Red Ignition Switch Harness direct
orangeAccessory OutputBlueIgnition Switch Harness direct
brownIgnition 2 outputBLACK / YELLOW (cold start Wire) direct
red+12V battery Input #1White Ignition Switch Harness direct
red+12V battery Input#2White Ignition Switch Harness direct

Velocity Motors 
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Posted: October 27, 2004 at 11:46 AM / IP Logged  
  • The door lock system is a single wire (-) trigger system. Here's the wiring diagram for it: http://www.velocitymotorsport.com/images/install_notes/244.jpg
  • Make sure that the window module that you have is capable of rolling up or down the windows with a pulsed input signal. Some require a latched or continuous signal and the internal circuit will automatically kick power off when it detects a voltage spike.
  • You do not need to connect the (+) door trigger wire. You only have the (-) wire to worry about
  • DO NOT use ignition #2 output for your 2nd starter wire unless there is a jumper on the unit that switched between 2nd IGN, 2nd Start or 2nd ACC and you put it to 2nd Start.  The wire from the unit will be either a (-) trigger wire for a relay or a (+) wire for a direct feed to the 2nd IGN wire. This will will have CONSTANT voltage meaning that it will leave 12 volts on the starter wire for as long as the car is running, not good for the starter. Use this diagram for the 2nd starter: http://www.velocitymotorsport.com/images/install_notes/108.jpg
Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
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m11gt 
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Posted: October 27, 2004 at 1:01 PM / IP Logged  

1)I have already done the doors and this was the way i did it. later on i found the single wire digram, but i think the way i did it should do. what do u think?

[img]https://www.the12volt.com/images/3wireposlocks.gif[/img]

2) I wil check it. (do i need a relay to connect the module to the alarm or i can connect it directly)

3) would it effect if i connected the door trigger wire (+)? it is already connected and it would be a paint to take it out.

4) just to make sure that i got it right.

The primary starter wire goes to the starter out put on the alarm and the prong 85 on the relay.

86 on the relay is grounded to the chassis or  somewhere else?

30 on the relay is connected the ign# 2

87 on the relay is connect to +12V.

87a is nothing.

sorry for asking alot, but i started learning this two days ago.

thanks for the info.

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Posted: October 27, 2004 at 2:12 PM / IP Logged  

1) It shouldn't work. The way you have it give the door locks a (+) pulse. Ground brown wire to unlock, cut it to lock is the way this system works.

2) You have to check to see how the modules work .

3) What do you have connected to the (+) wire if you have the (-) connected to the door trigger ?

4) No, this is how it should be

  • 87 - 12 volt constant
  • 85 - Primary start wire
  • 86 - Ground out when running wire ( which is your BLUE/ORANGE on the remote starter )
  • 30 - The 2nd START wire ( BLACK / YELLOW )
  • 87a - NOT USED
Jeff
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Morden, Manitoba CANADA
m11gt 
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Posted: October 27, 2004 at 3:15 PM / IP Logged  

okay. thanks.

i guess the only thing confusing me now is the "to vehicle's starter's starter output" at the bottom of the pic which is coming from primary start wire. where does it go to? to the starter? if yes what about the violet wire. what about the brown wire from the alarm harness.

what would happen if i just did not connect the ign 2 at all?

Alarm ColorAlarmWire On Car/ ColorLocaion

violetStarter outputBLACK/ White Ignition Switch Harness Anti-grind Relay 30
yellowIgnition 1 OutputBLACK/ Red Ignition Switch Harness direct
orangeAccessory OutputBlueIgnition Switch Harness direct
brownIgnition 2 outputBLACK / YELLOW (cold start Wire) direct
red+12V battery Input #1White Ignition Switch Harness direct
red+12V battery Input#2White Ignition Switch Harness direct

a part of the alarm

blue/orangeRemote start Output (-)500mAfactory alarm bypassnot needed

it would great if u can tell me exactly the color code and where everything goes. what goes to the this relay and what goes directly

thanks.

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Posted: October 27, 2004 at 6:56 PM / IP Logged  

The diagram is very self explanatory. I don't know how better to explain the diagram. If you can't read the simple diagram for the 2nd starter and the detailed description that I gave you in the previous post, then I suggest you let someone else handle the rest of the installation cause you will end up damaging something on this vehicle.

If you continue with the installation, just look at what I wrote on the previous post and use the diagram to help you, it ALL there.

Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
m11gt 
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Posted: October 28, 2004 at 7:04 AM / IP Logged  

Thank you.

I see how it works now. it did not make sense to me, because of my misunderstanding of how the ignition works, again this is all new to me. i connected it according to the digram u posted and it worked fine. the starter motor turns, but does not do it enough to start the car, from what i read the reason for that is the brain has to learn the tach signal first. Is there any other reason?

as far as the doors locking and unlocking and the alarm it self i had no issues although i tried it with the door trigger (+) being connected. as far as the door relays, they are connected the way i posted them first, that was worked fine for me.

than you very much for the quick responses.

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Posted: October 28, 2004 at 11:12 AM / IP Logged  
If you have not tried to teach the tach signal to the unit, then the car will not start up properly via remote control. Learn the tach and post your results.
Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

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