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geekepunk

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Posted: November 19, 2004 at 12:36 AM / IP Logged

I'm going to be installing an alarm/remote starter on this car. I'm wondering about airbags and the proper precautions.

Now, I've read somewhere that the airbag wires may be yellow and large gauge (14-16). Are there any special precautions I should know about before I go probing wires and such? Is there anyone here that can tell me what color the airbag wires are in this car and what might identify them?

Also, one more question...Where would I obtain 12 volts constant from? It would be power for the alarm. Do I just tap into one of those wires listed on the diagram?

All this info is much appreciated! Thanks!!!!

1998 Mercury Sable GS

stevent

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Posted: November 19, 2004 at 8:39 AM / IP Logged

Air bag wires are thinner and wrapped in a yellow jacket that makes it look thicker. They stick out like a sore thumb. For power you can get it in the ignition or run it directly from the battery with a fused power wire. I usually go with a 10 ga power wire off the battery for remote starts whenever possible.

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Posted: November 19, 2004 at 8:49 AM / IP Logged

I always grab my power from the ignition harness (except one caddy I did I had to go to the battery).

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geekepunk

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Posted: November 19, 2004 at 4:18 PM / IP Logged

Thanks! I'll take a close look underneath the dash so I can find all the wires and such. Are there any other risks involved when dealing with airbags that I should be aware of, particularly in this car??

So the constant wire is usually larger gauge in the ignition harness? I'd like to try and use the power from the inside so I don't have wire running from the battery.

I'll post some pics of the wires if I have any other questions.

Again, thanks for helpin me with this info!

1998 Mercury Sable GS

geekepunk

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Posted: November 30, 2004 at 7:09 PM / IP Logged

Sorry to bring back this already dead topic. I snapped a few pics of the ignition harness in my car. That yellow tube on the side that contains a few small wires, is that possibly linked to the airbags? Plus, I'm guessing that the bundle coming out of the white box is the ignition harness. Thanks!

1998 Mercury Sable GS

CruisinS&S

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Posted: November 30, 2004 at 7:18 PM / IP Logged

yes that is the ign harness(the grey cover pops right off it may look like it is bolted on but its not) and that looks like the airbag wire (yellow tubing on left of pick)

good luck!

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snguyen

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Posted: November 30, 2004 at 7:24 PM / IP Logged

Makesure you are using a DMMeter to check suspected wiring.

snguyen

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Posted: November 30, 2004 at 7:25 PM / IP Logged

Item	Wire Color	Polarity	Wire Location
12V	lt.grn/ppl or yellow	+	ignition harness
STARTER	RED / lt. blue	+	ignition harness
IGNITION	RED / lt. green	+	ignition harness
ACCESSORY	gry/yel & RED / blk	+	ignition harness
SECOND ACCESSORY
TACHOMETER	yellow/white		ignition coil *4
POWER LOCK	pink / YELLOW	-	drivers kick panel
POWER UNLOCK	pink/green	-	drivers kick panel
PARKING LIGHTS +	brown		switch or fuse box
PARKING LIGHTS -
DOOR TRIGGER	BLACK/ lt. blue	+	under dash light *1
HEADLIGHTS	RED / yellow	+	headlight switch
WIPERS	wht , dk. blue/org	+	wiper motor *5
LF WINDOW UP/DN	blk/wht - tan/ltblue	A	drivers door at switch
RF WINDOW UP/DN	wht/yel - tan/ltblue	A	drivers kick panel
LR WINDOW UP/DN	yel/ltblu-gray/org	A	drivers kick panel
RR WINDOW UP/DN	yel/blk - RED / blk	A	drivers kick panel
TRUNK/HATCH PIN	BLACK/ pink	-	at trunk light
HOOD PIN	none
TRUNK/HATCH RELEASE	pnk/yel or gry/red	*2	at release switch
FACTORY ALARM ARM
FACTORY ALARM DISARM	pink/white	-	drivers kick panel
HORN TRIGGER	PURPLE / orange	-	*3
BRAKE WIRE	RED / lt. Green	+	Brake switch or DKP
LOCK MOTOR	pink/black		drivers kick panel
UNLOCK MOTOR	RED / white		drivers kick panel
DISARM DEFEAT	pink/orange		drivers kick panel
DISARM NO UNLOCK	none
DOME SUPERVISION	none
SPEED SENSE	none
SUN ROOF OPEN/CLOSE	none
SUN ROOF LIMIT	none
LF SPEAKER	none	non	none
RF SPEAKER	none	non	none
LR SPEAKER	none	non	none
RR SPEAKER	none	non	none
RADIO 12V	none	non	none
RADIO GROUND	none	non	none
RADIO SWITCH	none	non	none
RADIO ILLUMINATE	none	non	none
POWER ANTENNA	none	non	none

Notes:	NOTE: This vehicle is equipped with PATS (Passive Anti Theft System). Use DEI module 555F to over-ride during remote start. 1 Also found lt. GREEN/ orange (-) at headlight switch. BLACK/ orange at GEM (instrument fuse panel) will get all doors and hatch on wagon. Rests at ground through ignition, cut and diode isolate. 2 There are 2 wires at the switch. If the switch has a pink / YELLOW and a gray/red use the pink / YELLOW as a negative trigger. If the swich has a gray/red and a purple / YELLOW, use gray/red as a positive trigger. 3 Four pin plug to right of steering column. 4 Coil & Harness behind intake manifold at back of engine compartment. *5 Also found at the fuse/relay box under hood.

geekepunk

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Posted: November 30, 2004 at 9:17 PM / IP Logged

Thanks! Sorry for the huge pic.

Snguyen, thanks for the additional wiring diagram. It has more info on it then my other diagrams.

Yea, that is the only large yellow tube underneath that I can see. It holds 3 or 4 wires I think and the wires run up into the steering column and onto seperate connectors and harnesses. It's hard to tell since it's so cluttered and all the wiring is covered by those blocks.

I plan to probe all of wires with my DMM, which is a Fluke by the way, if that is any good.

Also, the parking light wire is coming right out of the harness on the bottom of the fuse box, correct?

THANKS!

1998 Mercury Sable GS

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