crime guard 850i4 on 2006 tacoma

I've read tons of posts on the forum and found a great deal of info regarding the installation of Remote start and alarms.

The Crime Guard 850i4 instructions shows RS for one wire, in the manual they suggest using a Duel Remote Start Satellite Relay that plugs into the main brain via a small 4 pin plug.

1. Does anyone know where I can find this "part# RS-RP, I've searched the web and Ebay and can't seem to located a CG dealer that shows on on the web.

In other words I assume the 850i4 brain will send a postive or negative when you activate RS to the second relay which would send current from a battery line via the relay to the starter

Thank you

cfit--

i explained some of this to you on Ebay (adecomsales) when you asked me all about this over the course of several messages regarding my Omega Pass-4.  Sounds like you've never done ignition work like this before.  If this is in fact the case, be VERY carefully so you don't fry key electronics in your new truck OR (less bad) your crimeguard.

Cheers --

separate wires are used for igntion/starer/accessory for several reasons:

1) In some Nissans, timing of when a starter wire receives 12 volt power is crucial during cold starts of the engine; one starter wire gets engergized a split second sooner than the second starter wire.  Each stater wire engerizes different components of the mechanism required to start the engine.  In nissans, one starter wire energizes a check-system that analyzes the state of the engine (temperature, oil pressure, etc) a split second before the second starter wire receives power that is sent to the actual engine starter/solenoid. 

2) In all vehicles, systems' circuits are separated so that if one power circuit is fried, two systems are not fried in tandem.  Separate circuits allow, also, better ability to diagnose a system failure/issue

3) Your neutral wire question -- this is used by the Crime guard as a safety against starting the car when it is in gear -- Drive, 2, or L (1st/low gear).  Clearly, if you were to try and start your truck when it was in drive, it wouldn't allow the engine to turn over -- so your crime guard would make three attempts to start the trunk, analyzing the tach signal each time and seeing that it never turns over during the pre-programmed start cycle time, and will then drop an error code in the memory of the crime guard.  The neutral safety wire prevents the three attempts from even happening if it sees the car is in gear.

4) you do NOT need TWO additional relays (one for each starter wire).  The one green output wire from the CG is in fact a relayed output 30A from the crimeguard.  you just need one additional relay (as I expalined to you in thorough detail with pin numbers and everything) on Ebay.  For the second ignition output, do the exact same thing with another SPDT relay that you'll need to use the CG ignition output to relay power to the second ignition wire.

5) Are you familiar with the use of a VM?

6) Read and re-read on this website how a relay works -- you need a good understanding of relays before you USE one.  I would recommend against just posting on this site how to wire a relay and then going out and doing it after printing out the post ... you need to understand how a relay works -- how the small solenoid inside an SPDT relay flips the circuit from connecting the 30 pin from the 87a to the 87 pin.  Know that the 85 and 86 pins need to see a 12 volt or a ground/neg. charge and that these pins sometimes needs to be diode isolated.

7) Jumper = literally twisting two wires together WITHOUT using a relay in between.  This defeats the ability to isolate circuits and is always frowned upon.  believe it or not, you CAN just jumper the two starter wires together and two ignition wires together and get it to work, but i woudln't if i was my truck and if anything were ever to go wrong with your tacoma, enjoy telling your toyota dealer your theory about saving $10 in relays costs and therefore jumping two pairs of wires!

It's no problem at all -- i just hope that information and clarity in the information you obtain from this site helps you to succeed in your install.  If I capitalize letters or words, it's only out of habit, not suggestive or any irritation on my part.  I learned TONS of info (there i go again) from this site and continue to learn just by passively reading posts from time to time.

VM = voltmeter = DMM = dig. multi meter, yup.

Your first remote starter install will take the novice about 6 to 8 hours -- so plan on the car being out of commision for that time period (you may do it in much less time).

Some other tips: solder all your connections, avoid t-taps if you can.  DMM or VM all your wires a couple times before tieing in a wire and soldering.  Make sure you tach learn the r/s brain prior to first remote start.  Your tacoma is a relatively straight forward install, so you should be fine.

Just keep in mind the keysense wire needs to see ground(-) to avoid that chime during the remote start period and map out on paper your relays prior to connecting them all. 

If you don't end up finding that neutral safety wire, use it as a service toggle as we discussed on Ebay.  Most r/s brains I install for auto trannies do NOT have that neutral safety wire.

Here is a link to your service manual (it's a 2005 which is identical to the 2006), it's a good idea to always have one of these with your vehicle (if you routinely work on it) especially during the install of a remote starter in case you blow a fuse -- :

http://haroldmiller.net/FSM/

I'll look at it for your neutral safety wire.

Ok, after reading the EWD, page 7/60 there is a BLACK / YELLOW wire off the ECM that is the Park/neutral switch wire for an automatic tranny -- if this is the wire you're looking for, VMM and determine the polarity/voltage during park/neutral and drive -

APPLY YOUR PARKING BRAKE prior to testing!