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loralai 
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Posted: November 22, 2007 at 12:38 PM / IP Logged  
Dodge fullsize truck, 2004. I just received my DEI alarm/remotestart.keyless entry. While I'm waitng on the bypass modules, etc., I decided to run some wires and do what I could. The alarm has a 12V constant and a ground. I hooked these  up along with the LED, Valet switch, siren, shcok sensor.. My question is shouldn't the alarm part work? The alarms I done in the past would work without the extras.  Will I have to wait until all my other parts come in before it will even work? I have a constant 12V at the alarm and a good ground. but when I press the remote I get nothing. I went to program the remotes, grounding the door input, turning on the ign., and pressing the button but I got nothing (no Ign wire). Does the entire alarm need to be installed? For right now I would be satisfied with the alram part. Seems to me I'm missing a ing. source. ANyone have any adivce?
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When you said you went through the programming steps, door open ignition on etc.  Then you reminded us that you have not conncted the ignition wire yet.  If Ign on is part of the remote programming I would assume that the ign wire is required.  We do not sell DEI alarms but The audiovox alarms will work, or at least arm and disarm with the amount of connections you have listed.  If the remote has to be programmed on the DEI before it will work you will at least need to connect the Ign. wire

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yea, as mentioned before, ignition wire is crucial for programming remotes to ur unit. connect ur ignition now, then later u can just remove it, splice it even more for ur starter wires.  
loralai 
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all the DEI stuff that I have done in the past, with remote start or without usually worked well like I have this one intalled. The only ign wire on the entire system is on  the remote start side of the  alarm, large pink wire ( i think pink). I think the instructions said that it was already preprogrammed but there is a large sticker on the manual that says it has to be programmed. Anyway, I will connect the ign wire and see what I get. I knew an ign wire was needed to program but as not fully sure that I needed to use the remote start side. I'll let you know what I find out. Thanx
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Posted: November 22, 2007 at 6:20 PM / IP Logged  
If you look at the ribbon cable to the XCRS (relay pack) you will see a yellow wire. In the XCRS that yellow connects to the pink to let the system know there is voltage to the ignition wire in the vehicle and allow the system to go into programming mode.
Your remotes should have come preprogrammed, however if it was an eBay system it is possible the remotes included were not the original remotes and would need to be programmed.
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loralai 
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I saw the ribbon cable that plugs into the alarm and goes into the top of that part. So the alarm part will not work with just the batt and ground wire, shock sensor and siren hooked up?...I bought this from a audio shop that my friend owns. but he is out of town. I thought the remotes came preprogrammed. But i will hook up the ign wire and try to get the alarm to learn the remote and see what happens. Gettin a little confused..haha. But should the alarm work with just what I connected? I'm about to go and connect the ign wire and see about the programming but will check back in a minute and see if there is a new post. Just to be on the right path.. what do I need to hook up to get this thing to chirp and protect with the shock sensor?  Also while I'm getting great help form all of you, I was told I need a module to get the remote start working ( I was told this by a different friend) and that I would need another module to interface with the door locks and would need to change the jumper to a (-) and use a resistor to run the parking lites. I tested the parking lite circuit and only found 1 12volt wire when the parking lites come on. but when you turn down the dimmer the voltage goes down, so that wire is out.( I have a factory keyless entry). FYI 2004 dodge truck. You guys probably think I just another dumb blonde but I have installed alarms before but it has been a few years...before all this new interface stuff...Thanx for the great help!!
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Your system should be already programmed with the remotes.  Sometimes you need to unplug the antenna and replug it in for it to work.  And no, you dont need to have the relay harness connected to see if it works.  When i install these systems I install the alarm part first and then the r/s and have tested it first.  The only way the alarm will go off is if you trip up the shock sensor.  If you had your door trigger connected then that will go off too  What i recommend doing is install everything and the bypass last.  Thats the last thing you should be doing anyway.  If its an RF based immobilizer then you can install everything and leave the key in the off position and test out the remote start.  This will make it easy for you.  What you should do is when installing the system you should have the three wires::: ground, 12v constant, and the blue/white thats labeled as a "status output" (if your not using it for a defogger output) seperate.  You do it like that so that when you install the bypass it can be connected to those wires.
loralai 
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Posted: November 22, 2007 at 9:25 PM / IP Logged  

Thanks for the advice enice. What I'm really trying to figure out right now is that with the 12V constant, ground, siren, shock sensor and ant connected why the alarm does not respond to the xmitter? I have good power and ground.Thats why I was planning on reprogramming the remote but I will need to connect the  Ing wire from the remote start first.  I will connect all the bypass modules/RS/etc later on when I get the parts as you indicated.

When I press tha arm button...nothing happens. No siren chirp, LED, or anything. Please keep posting, I'm walking out the door now to wire the ing wire and try to get the remotes reprogrammed

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Like i posted earlier.  unplug the antenna on both ends and reconnect.  If that doesnt work then connect that wire to ign and try reprogramming system.
loralai 
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Posted: November 23, 2007 at 5:11 PM / IP Logged  
Ok I unplugged the ant from both ends and reconnected.   I got nothing. SO then I connected the two red leads for the RS along with the Ing. wire (green on the alarm(rs) to the pink/white on the truck). I got power at every constant 12v's, I got a switched 12v's at the ing wire and tested all these with my ground attached to my ground wire. I checked the wires where they enter the alarm. But no siren chirp, no alarm, no led. SO I thought I'd just try my luck programming it. I ground the H8 door trigger, turn the key on, and pressed the switch the correct number of times..still nothing. Bad brain unit? I'm clueless at this time.
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