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me2vn 
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Posted: January 11, 2003 at 11:34 PM / IP Logged  

I recently installed an fm modulator into my car and it works great.  However, I'm getting a noise problem when I try to use it in conjunction w/ a power inverter.  I get the noise problem when the inverter is on and something is plugged in.   Does anyone know of a solution to this or do I have to just forget about using the inverter when using the fm mod?  Thanks.

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Posted: January 12, 2003 at 12:08 AM / IP Logged  
Make sure that your inverter is well grounded. If the inverter is not grounded to a clean, paint free metal area, you will induce noise through any device that is plugged into to it.
Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
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Morden, Manitoba CANADA
me2vn 
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Posted: January 12, 2003 at 12:13 AM / IP Logged  

I see.  Well, I'm using an inverter that just plugs into the cigarette lighter so it is probably not being grounded that well.  Any other thoughts on this?  How would I improve it's ground connection?

Also, I was testing the inverter with my laptop.  I plugged my laptop into the inverter and the audio output into the fm modulator.   That was when I was getting the noise.  

Thanks for that reply.

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Posted: January 12, 2003 at 12:42 AM / IP Logged  
How was the FM modulator grounded ? Did you have the car running at the time you did this ?
Jeff
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me2vn 
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Posted: January 12, 2003 at 1:01 AM / IP Logged  

The FM modulator is grounded to a spot where toyota grounded another piece of equipment.  It looks like it is connected directly to the floor of the 4runner.  It is basically the metal case where I screw my deck into.

And, yes, I did have my car running when I was doing this.  Everything works fine even when the inverter was plugged in.  Only if I plugged the laptop in would the thing go crazy.  I wouldnt even have to plug the audio output to the laptop.  All I have to do is touch the end of the cable with my finger and I get the loud humming.

me2vn 
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Posted: January 12, 2003 at 1:07 AM / IP Logged  
I forgot to mention something about the FMmod too.  Its the one by XOvision and on the box says it has a "built-in ground-isolator IC & anti-howling system."  It's basically a little thing housed in a small black box attached to the 12V+ wire.  I dunno if this helps.
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Posted: January 12, 2003 at 8:23 AM / IP Logged  
I would hardwire the inverter. The center pin is the 12 volts and the outer prong is the ground.
Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
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Morden, Manitoba CANADA

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