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Iceorbz 
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Posted: July 08, 2005 at 5:22 PM / IP Logged  

Ok well first time ever touching fiberglass and already writing down a little what not to do list lol.   Just as a note , all of this is for nothing more then practice really.  Im not expecting this to turn out well at all lol.   Just want to get a little wet behind the ears with this stuff before I try to do anything that I consider serious.

First stepp I took, was taping off the area with masking tape, took about 1 roll of 2" to cover most of the area I thought I would need.  Here went my first mistake, I mixed the resin in my room ( I live in a barracks and ran it out to my car, forgot that I hadnt already adheared the fiber mat to the masking tape. So quickly I grabbed  3m Spray Glue to help get the fiber matt to stick to the the masking tape and help with the resin process.   This put me about 2 -3 minutes into hardning I would say.  I had mixed  just under a quart of poly resin with about 9cc of hardner.

Started to glass !

First project -- posted image.

 

So its going well, having fun.  Man does this stuff stink.  good thing I am wearing a resperator.

So now my problem came, I had let the resin start curing to long.  It was thikening up on me and turning a purple color.  But I didnt really relize this to late so it was laying down a few clumps when I started to coat the bottem.   Once I noticed this I stopped said a few words to the car and walked off lol.

First project -- posted image.

First project -- posted image.

Great out of resin ! :(

Well the only smart thing I could think of doing was mixing more resin !  So I only did 17 oz with 4 cc of hardner.    And went back out the vehicles, started to cover some of it.  Problem was that some of thardner previously was already set and didnt go all the way through the fiber mat.  So when I take this out im going to have some loose junk on the back.  I figure I can just sand that down and reinforce it a bit with some bodyfiller if needed.    So these are the pictures im ending with for my first step.

First project -- posted image.

Chunks of resin.

First project -- posted image.

Finished with 2nd 17 oz of Resin.

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Iceorbz 
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Posted: July 08, 2005 at 5:28 PM / IP Logged  

Ugh Pictures messed up !  Sorry I cant edit :( or I would.

Started to glass ! https://iceorbz.nrgservers.net/fiber1.jpg

Great out of Resin- https://iceorbz.nrgservers.net/Fiber7.jpg

Chunks of Resin - https://iceorbz.nrgservers.net/Fiber3.jpg

Finished whith 2nd 17 oz of resin - https://iceorbz.nrgservers.net/Fiber6.jpg

Poormanq45 
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Posted: July 08, 2005 at 6:36 PM / IP Logged  
not too bad.
Except you don't have to stick the matt to the tape. You're supposed to put some resin/hardner down and lay the matt on that. That'll hold it in place. Then I've found then dipping the brush and then "Stabbing" it into the matt works the best.
ALso, I don't recommend mixing the resin inside
05honda 
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Posted: July 08, 2005 at 8:12 PM / IP Logged  
looks great for a first fab.....yeah mixing resin any distance form the car is a bad idea.....and the glu wasnt completely necessary........but nice job man
j68rh 
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Posted: July 09, 2005 at 6:54 AM / IP Logged  
What I learned was to use aluminum foil and mask that the car and then take some cooking spray and spray it on the aluminum so the fiberglass after it cures doesn't stick to the aluminum.  Also paint the resin on the foil and then place the class on top then pain the resin on the fiberglass mat.  also do little sections at a time and build from the center out.  Other then those few little hints the project is looking good.  Oh yeah if you are going to do car work in your BKS. room becarefull accidents do happen  trust me I lived in the bks once and accidents happend and I had to pay to get it fixed.  Its looking good though keep up the good work.
Poormanq45 
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J68rh: What you were saying about aluminum and spraying it only applies if you're making a mold.
I don't think he's making a mold. he's only making this one
j68rh 
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if you look at the pictures he is makeing a mold
Poormanq45 
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Yeah, except he's not making a mold that's going to be reproduced.
What you said about the aluminum and spray applies when you're reproducing it.
He started of right by taping off the area with masking tape. I do the same thing. Where he went wrong was glueing the matte to the tape. You're supposed to put resin/hardner down then lay the matte over that. That'll hold it in place while you work with it.
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I really don't see why it would matter if he had foil stuck to the dark side of a project. Most of mine have at least a little bit.
I don't think the glue is a problem either. I do exactly what he did all the time. On vertical areas like that resin, won't always hold your mat still. It needs some help sometimes.
I think the main problem here is just a noobish lack of planning.First project -- posted image. Don't feel bad, it's your first time and you didn't really know what to plan for. Next time you'll know a little more about what your doing and the next time you'll know even more. Your project looks 1000 times better than the mustang, so your off to a good start.
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