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kingsflame 
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Posted: February 09, 2010 at 10:35 PM / IP Logged  
ok, i bought a switch panel for all my LEDs for my car. its called the "illuminated switch panel" made by streetglow.
My question is, do i need to connect it to a fuse as i add it directly to the battery? If you look up the item, it mentions it has automatic reset fuses built inside and an easy 2 wire hookup..
Would i still need a fuse connecting directly to the battery such as amps? it doesnt mention anything in the product manual, and the site doesnt help much. What is recommended?
tommy... 
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There are a total of 12 amps available for the four

black sub-switches with a maximum of 3 amps per

black sub-switch. Each sub-switch contains a built

in resettable fuse on each output which will trip in

the event of overload. To reset, first disconnect the

power and ground wires from the red and black

push clips at the back of the switch panel. Power

will resume within two minutes. Before

reconnecting the power and ground wires to the

red and black clips, determine and correct the

cause of the overload. Reconnect and power up.

http://www.streetglow.com/site/Media/Manuals/sgsw5.pdf

Are you running a lead to the battery...I'm kinda OCD when it comes to tapping 12v and pretty much always fuse...It was  from my humble beginnings and scared to mess something up...

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kingsflame 
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Posted: February 09, 2010 at 11:22 PM / IP Logged  
actually, im just going to use my switch board for everything....i have my interiors, my washer nozzles, and my underglow..which should only use up 3 of the 4. the only thing going to the battery would be the wires from the switch panel
oldspark 
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Posted: February 10, 2010 at 7:01 AM / IP Logged  
To paraphrase Tommy:
What happens to the wire from the battery to the switchboard if it shorts to ground?
kingsflame 
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Posted: February 10, 2010 at 9:22 AM / IP Logged  
the fuses should trip inside the switchboard, but i havent installed it yet...should i have a fuse before connecting to the battery? cause wouldnt that be going through 2 fuses? switch board + the one going into the terminal? is that bad?
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Posted: February 10, 2010 at 10:34 AM / IP Logged  
No....
You have the battery +12V through a wire to the fuses etc.
If you short that wire, the switchboard fuses will not trip or blow.
What protects that wire?
What stops the battery dumping its hundreds of Amps of short-circuit current through the wire, thereby vapourising it and igniting flammable gases or starting a fire?
I am assuming that the switchboard is not near the battery....
kingsflame 
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Posted: February 10, 2010 at 12:42 PM / IP Logged  
i was told that i use a 15amp inline from the +, in which should power my switch panel, however, i was also told that i should use add-a-fuse rather than direct battery...but if i do that...would my switch panel hold up..because i would have my interior kit, my underglow, and my washer led nozzles going through my swtich panel which wuold be going through an add-a-fuse..it just seems like if i was too turn all 3 on, something would happen..also i was thinking about hardwiring my GPS being that it can hold 4 accessories...
tommy... 
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Why would a fuse mess anything up...? The sub-switches are on resettable circuits...Does not appear that the main switch feed is fused...You have 3a per sub switch...As long as that is not exceeded...those should be fine...Fuse the main power connection...What would happen if there is NO fuse and something happens...Fuse the main switch...Im kinda lost on how "add-a-fuse" would somehow ruin something...Then what would happen if you didnt "add-a-fuse" and then turn all the switches on./..? Maybe you could be a liitle clearer...? As far as hardwiring your GPS...As long as it does not exceed the maximum current draw allowed by the sub-switch...IE...3 amps...It should work fine...! Basically you have up to 3 amps per sub-switch totalling 12 amps total...no more then that...! If all of your accessories does not exceed 3 amps per sub-switch...should be ok...! Whats your plan on hard-wiring the GPS...? Some units are NOT 12v and are stepped down to 5v-6v inside the cigarette adapter plug...Verify this before you hack the harness off... !
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kingsflame 
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Posted: February 10, 2010 at 1:23 PM / IP Logged  
sry...i lost myself also...
ok..my situtation:
The stuff that i want to install:
Interior Kit LEDglow.com
Underglow kit by LEDglow.com
Washer Nozzle LEDs by Streetglow.com
5 Switch Illunminated Switch Panel by Streetglow.com
   - 1 main switch, 4 sub switches
I want to put all the kits to separate switches on the switch panel.
3 kits = 3 switches + 1 switch for another accessory
the switch panel has already the + and - wires...
what i want to know is how exactly would i connect the switch panel so that its possible to use all switches the same time if i wanted.
1) How would i connect it to the battery (what would i need i.e. fuses, wires,)
Alternate route
2) if i was to use an 'add-a-fuse', would that whole panel (w/ the kits connected) be enough power going through to light everything at once? And if so, what fuse size should i use?
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Posted: February 10, 2010 at 2:01 PM / IP Logged  

You didn't mention what kind of car you have, but I would connect stuff directly to the main 12vdc feed under the steering column through a 10A fuse.  If you have issues with the 10A fuse you could go 15A, but I doubt you will need it.

Going directly to the battery is overkill in your low current (<12A) situation.  You are pushing the limits of an add a fuse (plus I've never really liked them anyway).

Kevin Pierson
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