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thapimpfromchi 
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Posted: May 10, 2004 at 7:37 PM / IP Logged  

Hey Fellas, i'm tryin to help my friend out with a system. She currently has 2 "GEMSOUND" 12" subs, in a sealed box, which happens to be wayyyy too large for them, or for any 12" subs. Powering them she has a Jensen 4 channel amp, running at 200x2. It can be switched from 2-3-4 channels. Anyways, she wants to get some more boom, but only wants to spend 200 bucks. Tops. I was thinking about 2-12" W0's and a audiofonics 1000w (yea right) amp. I can get them and a box for 200. It would be much better than what she has right now. My question, anyone know of something that would hit better than the W0's and the audiofonics amp for the same price? I dont buy cheap equipment so this is kind of a challenge for me. lol. TIA.

1990 Honda Civic HB:
Clarion DXZ545MP H.U.
2- 6.5" Power Acoustik interiors
Diamond Audio 600.1 amp
Diamond Audio 15" M6MKII
Pyramid PB881X 4 CH. Amp
thapimpfromchi 
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anyone? I need to know asap. She wants it done by thursday. Thanks.
1990 Honda Civic HB:
Clarion DXZ545MP H.U.
2- 6.5" Power Acoustik interiors
Diamond Audio 600.1 amp
Diamond Audio 15" M6MKII
Pyramid PB881X 4 CH. Amp
casedeez 
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Posted: May 11, 2004 at 12:45 AM / IP Logged  

Personally I would get her one decent 12 a new box and a amp. As far as what kind Im not sure. I will take a look around and see what I can find.

Jay22 
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Posted: May 11, 2004 at 12:55 AM / IP Logged  
If it is a small car big boom can come outa a nice 15" especially a hatchback. But I hear there kinda sloppy but they pound.
chevyman26 
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Posted: May 11, 2004 at 2:19 AM / IP Logged  
Is cutting down the box yourself a possibility? If it is I would do that , then pick which is the weaker part of the system (amp or subs), and put the whole budget into replacing that part for something decent that can hide the other parts weaknesses. Got any spare amps or subs layin around for some quick switcheroo testing....?
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Ketel22 
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i would do like casedeez suggested, buy a 12" sub and an amp. then scrap the old box to build a good enclosure for the new 12". As far as the sub you can usually get a Alpine R-12 for around $100 but i don't know what good $100 would do you for an amp. you could also get a nice S or E series Alpine for about $80 and $60 respectively.....there are many other subs that would do the job that are under a hundred but right now all i can think about is the brands i own, its far too late to search and find you other numbers sry.
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augydoggy 
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For subs you can get a 12" Kicker, Cerwin-Vega, or Polk Audio for around $70 at http://www.onlinecarstereo.com. Then I would suggest this Power Acoustik A520-2HP amp, for $89.95.  I have a Power Acoustick amp and I'm very happy with it.  This should also leave you money for a box, plus, if in the future she has more money to spend, you can always get another sub, box and amp.
fuseblower 
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Posted: May 11, 2004 at 8:18 AM / IP Logged  

For a budget system this amp probably will work for you.  I got one about a month ago for a gift and it sounds pretty good.  It's only been a month but no problems so far.  The only draw back is that this amp is large for the amount of power it puts out.  As for the subs, I never heard of them until now.  Did a little research and could not find much on them.  However, you can go to there website and see if the dimensions of the boxes that they use are close to the one of your friends box.  You might want to look into changing the subs also.  I never heard the crunch subs before but they may sound ok for a budget system.

amplifier http://www.ikesound.com/product-product_id/1181

current box http://www.gemsound.com/flash.html

New subs http://www.thezeb.com/detail.aspx?ID=8564

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Posted: May 11, 2004 at 8:31 AM / IP Logged  
You can easily make an enclosure smaller by adding solid filler to the inside.  Either screw MDF panels to the sides or fill the space with a solid mass.  Calculate what the interior volume is now and subtract what your target is (ie: if it's now 2.2 cuft and you want it to be 1.5 cuft, you need to consume 0.7 cuft.)  I like to use bricks glued to the bottom of the enclosure with RTV.  So in my example, add enough bricks to take up 0.7 cuft.  Bricks are sonicly neutral and since they are rectangular their volume is easy to calculate and they are easy to break in half.  Plus they add significant weight to the bottom of the enclosure and help keep it in place.
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DYohn,

I just had to ask this question are you serious about using bricks??  

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